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From: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
To: "Christopher J. PeBenito" <cpebenito@tresys.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, DGoeddel@TrustedCS.com,
	vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Labeled IPsec for PostgreSQL/MySQL/SSHd (Re: [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:10:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4860BA1B.5030302@ak.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C3738A.3010007@ak.jp.nec.com>

Kohei KaiGai wrote:
> Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 14:11 +0900, Kohei KaiGai wrote:
>>> Paul Moore wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday 19 February 2008 7:59:22 pm Kohei KaiGai wrote:
>>>>> Is it acceptable one, if we provide an interface to allow a domain
>>>>> to communicate postgresql_t via labeled networking, separated from
>>>>> existing permissions for local ports and nodes?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> -- at postgresql.if
>>>>> interface(`postgresql_labeled_connect',`
>>>>> 	gen_require(`
>>>>> 		type postgresql_t;
>>>>> 	')
>>>>> 	corenet_tcp_recvfrom_labeled($1,postgresql_t)
>>>>> ')
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> -- at apache.te
>>>>> postgresql_labeled_connect(httpd_t)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this approach enables to keep independency between modules
>>>>> in unlabeled networking cases too.
>>>> For what it is worth, it looks like a good idea to me.
>>> At first, I implemented this idea for three services (PostgreSQL/MySQL/SSHd).
>>>
>>> This patch adds the following interfaces:
>>> - postgresql_labeled_communicate(domain)
>>> - mysql_labeled_communicate(domain)
>>> - ssh_labeled_communicate(domain)
>>>
>>> Chris, is it suitable for refpolicy framework?
>> The only issue I have with it would just be the interface naming;
>> probably something like mysql_tcp_recvfrom() would be better.
> 
> I think the name of "xxxx_tcp_recvfrom()" is not obvious whether it means
> permissions related to labeled networking, or not.
> 
> What do you think the following ideas?
>  - something_labeled_recvfrom(domain)
>       or
>  - something_labeled_tcp_recvfrom(domain)
> 
> Thanks,

Oops, I found out this topic has not been progressed for a long time.

An interface of corenet_*_recvfrom_labeled(dom1, dom2) is
provided in the latest policy, but nobody uses it except
for a few cases like:
 - communication between unconfined domain and any other domain.
 - communication between httpd_t and postgresql_t.

In the previous discussion, you were hesitant to add permissions
which allows to communicate between widespread domains, so we
made a decision to put per-domain interfaces as above.

At first, could you fix its naming scheme?
I think somethind_labeled_tcp_recvfrom(domain) is more obvious
to show its meanings.

And, I'm worried about massive enumeration of these interfaces
at userdom_basic_networking_template.
Currently, it allows widespread permissions toward any nodes,
port and interfaces.
I don't think "daemon_labeled_tcp_recvfrom($1_t)" here makes
security degrading. Is it reasonable to allow to communicate
between userdomains and daemon attribute?

Thanks,
-- 
OSS Platform Development Division, NEC
KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07 16:07 security context for SPD entries of labeled IPsec Venkat Yekkirala
2007-11-08 14:22 ` KaiGai Kohei
     [not found]   ` <473872F8.7000208@ak.jp.nec.com>
     [not found]     ` <1195055160.13737.33.camel@gorn.columbia.tresys.com>
     [not found]       ` <473B23F9.4080506@ak.jp.nec.com>
     [not found]         ` <1195064402.13737.42.camel@gorn.columbia.tresys.com>
2007-11-15  2:51           ` [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context (Re: security context for SPD entries of labeled IPsec) KaiGai Kohei
2007-11-15 14:26             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-11-15 16:05               ` Paul Moore
2007-11-19  2:21               ` KaiGai Kohei
2007-11-19 18:48                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-11-20  9:14                   ` [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context KaiGai Kohei
2007-11-20 18:34                     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-11-21  4:26                       ` KaiGai Kohei
2007-11-26 16:38                         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-11-29 11:46                           ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-01-23  3:00                             ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-19  7:09                               ` [PATCH] Labeled IPsec for PostgreSQL/MySQL/SSHd (Re: [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context) Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-19 13:35                                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-02-20  0:59                                   ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-20  3:37                                     ` Paul Moore
2008-02-20  5:11                                       ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-20 14:18                                         ` Paul Moore
2008-02-25 16:13                                           ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-02-25 16:12                                         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-02-26  2:03                                           ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-06-24  9:10                                             ` KaiGai Kohei [this message]
2008-06-25  5:59                                               ` [PATCH] Communication between domains under labeled networks KaiGai Kohei
2008-07-18 13:41                                                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-07-22 10:49                                                   ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-07-25  4:10                                                     ` Chris PeBenito
2008-08-15  8:48                                                       ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-09-11 13:31                                                         ` [refpolicy] " Christopher J. PeBenito
2008-07-18 13:34                                               ` [PATCH] Labeled IPsec for PostgreSQL/MySQL/SSHd (Re: [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context) Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-12-13 14:00                 ` [PATCH] IPsec SPD default security context (Re: security context for SPD entries of labeled IPsec) Ted X Toth
2007-12-13 14:14                   ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-12-13 14:58                     ` Xavier Toth
2007-12-14 19:20                       ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-12-15 21:10                         ` Xavier Toth

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