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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:34:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48695F88.9080905@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48695871.8000805@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking at the beginning of startup_32, it seems ds is used before 
>>> it is set:
>>>
>>> startup_32:
>>>         cld
>>>         /* test KEEP_SEGMENTS flag to see if the bootloader is asking
>>>          * us to not reload segments */
>>>         testb $(1<<6), BP_loadflags(%esi)
>>>         jnz 1f
>>>
>>>         cli
>>>         movl $(__BOOT_DS),%eax
>>>         movl %eax,%ds
>>>         movl %eax,%es
>>>         movl %eax,%fs
>>>         movl %eax,%gs
>>>         movl %eax,%ss
>>> 1:
>>>
>>> Since the testb instruction is a dereference, ds is implicitly used. If
>>> I move the testb to after "movl %eax,%ds" it seems to work (not that it
>>> would make any sense there, but just to prove the point).
>>>
>>> 1) Am I barking up the wrong tree?
>>>
>>> 2) If I'm right I have no idea what the correct solution is; it 
>>> seems that
>>>    a chicken & egg issue is introduced.
>>>
>>> Please advise. I am very new to all of this.
>>
>> It's a bit odd that the boot loader neglected to set up ds properly, 
>> but changing the testb line to
>>
>>     testb $(1<<6), %cs:BP_loadflags(%esi)
>>
>> should work.  (Or perhaps a %ss: override would be better?)
>>
>> I'm assuming that the GDT setup isn't completely mad and that the 
>> segments have the same base at least.
>>
>
> This should have been set up by the *boot code* (specifically lines 
> 57-61 of arch/x86/boot/pmjump.S) since he's using a conventional boot 
> loader (syslinux) so something is utterly fuggled up.

Hm, yeah.

> Using %cs: here should be safe, though (and *is* more conservative, 
> after all, why otherwise bother reloading these segments at all?), but 
> it still concerns me a great deal if this is broken in this way.  It's 
> definitely better than %ss:.
>
> In particular, I'm wondering if the Elan CPU has any strange ordering 
> requirements with regards to the protected mode transition that we're 
> not obeying.

Maybe it really does require the far jump immediately after setting PE 
in cr0...

Hm, I don't remember this paragraph being in vol 3a, section 8.9.1 
before.  Is it a recent addition?

    Random failures can occur if other instructions exist between steps
    3 and 4 above.  Failures will be readily seen in some situations,
    such as when instructions that reference memory are inserted between
    steps 3 and 4 while in system management mode.



    J

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-16 12:11 Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500 Sean Young
2008-06-16 13:27 ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-16 13:37   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-16 16:19     ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 17:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:58         ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 18:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:07       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 21:43       ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 21:52         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:04           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:36               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:45                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:31             ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 22:34             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-06-30 22:42               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 19:59                 ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:20                   ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:24                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:25                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-15 22:23                     ` Sean Young
2008-07-15 22:30                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:22                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:23                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:29                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:39                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-06 13:21                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-30 22:09           ` Sean Young
2008-07-06  2:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-06  3:07               ` H. Peter Anvin

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