From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KFBi5-0007cq-BV for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:38:09 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFBi4-0007cN-4B for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:38:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFBi2-0007bU-Et for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:38:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46921 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFBi2-0007bO-65 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:38:06 -0400 Received: from khepri.openbios.org ([80.190.231.112]:24819) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFBi1-0003qz-Lf for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:38:06 -0400 Received: from dslb-088-064-178-084.pools.arcor-ip.net ([88.64.178.84] helo=[192.168.0.27]) by khepri.openbios.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KFBhi-0003e0-AL for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: <486FB17C.7020705@coresystems.de> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:38:04 +0200 From: Stefan Reinauer Organization: coresystems GmbH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <20080705121501.GB1647@thorin> <486FAA1C.8080006@coresystems.de> <486FAF3D.1030708@nic.fi> In-Reply-To: <486FAF3D.1030708@nic.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=3134D111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Duff: Orig. Duff, Duff Lite, Duff Dry, Duff Dark, Raspberry Duff, Lady Duff, Red Duff, Tartar Control Duff X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Idea: elimination of the normal mode X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:38:08 -0000 Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: > Stefan Reinauer wrote: >> Robert Millan wrote: >>>> About the duplicated commands, we can create a module minicmd to >>>> include the most basic command >>>> >>> Then we can't have a rescue shell before heap is initialised and >>> minicmd >>> is loaded. Should we be concerned about this? >>> >> What would one use that rescue shell for? > > Idea of the rescue shell is load other modules in case grub itself > cannot find them. It provides thin layer of tools so user is able to > find them. > > Personally I would like to keep this functionality in core.img. So, how is the "rescue shell" different that "grub itself". Why would it find modules that "grub itself" does not find? Stefan -- coresystems GmbH • Brahmsstr. 16 • D-79104 Freiburg i. Br. Tel.: +49 761 7668825 • Fax: +49 761 7664613 Email: info@coresystems.de • http://www.coresystems.de/ Registergericht: Amtsgericht Freiburg • HRB 7656 Geschäftsführer: Stefan Reinauer • Ust-IdNr.: DE245674866