From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KFCD7-0006Vk-QY for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFCD6-0006UT-In for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFCD4-0006SS-I1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49732 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFCD4-0006SJ-CX for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:10 -0400 Received: from mta-out.inet.fi ([195.156.147.13]:38098 helo=kirsi1.rokki.sonera.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFCD3-0001z1-IO for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (88.193.32.97) by kirsi1.rokki.sonera.fi (8.5.014) id 483E837C019E090A for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:10:08 +0300 Message-ID: <486FB907.7020308@nic.fi> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:10:15 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmVzYSBKw6TDpHNrZWzDpGluZW4=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <20080705121501.GB1647@thorin> <486FAA1C.8080006@coresystems.de> <486FAF3D.1030708@nic.fi> <486FB17C.7020705@coresystems.de> <486FB514.5040000@nic.fi> <486FB6D8.2090506@coresystems.de> In-Reply-To: <486FB6D8.2090506@coresystems.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Idea: elimination of the normal mode X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:10:12 -0000 Stefan Reinauer wrote: > Vesa J=C3=A4=C3=A4skel=C3=A4inen wrote: >> Stefan Reinauer wrote: >>> Vesa J=C3=A4=C3=A4skel=C3=A4inen wrote: >>>> Idea of the rescue shell is load other modules in case grub itself >>>> cannot find them. It provides thin layer of tools so user is able to >>>> find them. >>>> >>>> Personally I would like to keep this functionality in core.img.=20 >>> So, how is the "rescue shell" different that "grub itself". Why would= it >>> find modules that "grub itself" does not find? >> User can use ls and insmod commands to load those modules from disk. >> Most common problem with GRUB legacy is that it just prints GRUB on >> screen. This will kinda remove that problem as user still has a way to >> boot his system with some keypresses. > So the rescue shell has filesystems and a shell? Is the "advanced > console interface" so huge that it can't live with the shell and the > filesystems in the rescue shell? It has anything what core provides. If by this you get core smaller then=20 I am all for it. If it makes it larger then I would propose to find free=20 space from somewhere else. Core.img just have to be standalone=20 application so user can do recovery if something gets wrong in=20 installation or something else. I do not know how well grub scripting is integrated to normal mode so=20 check that out first.