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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Imprecise timers.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:04:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4885E8F8.1050207@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080722055421.2023d261@infradead.org>

On 22-07-08 14:54, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:19:02 +0200
> Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl> wrote:
> 
>> On 22-07-08 05:02, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>
>>> Many users of timers don't really care too much about exactly when
>>> their timer fires -- and waking a CPU to satisfy such a timer is a
>>> waste of power. This patch implements a 'range' timer which will
>>> fire at a 'convenient' moment within given constraints.
>>>
>>> It's implemented by a deferrable timer at the beginning of the
>>> range, which will run some time later when the CPU happens to be
>>> awake. And a non-deferrable timer at the hard deadline, to ensure
>>> it really does happen by then.
>> Are there actually users for this (not just in theory)? The
>> deferrable timer sort of sounds like all I'd ever want if I, as you
>> say, wouldn't really care...
> 
> there's a few; mostly around hardware timeout..For example Stephen want
> it for his drivers.

Hardware I've dealt with is (almost? can't remember anything else) 
exlusively minimal delays and as such this thing seemed like perhaps a 
bit over-apisized...

> EXT3 journal flushing is another one where we can easily say 
> "between 4 and 7 seconds" rather than "exactly at 5"

This a nice-ish example though. It might be considered necessary to make 
the current commit delay when set explicitly be the non-deferrable upper 
bound but almost none do I guess.

Rene.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-22 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-22  3:02 [RFC] Imprecise timers David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  3:05 ` [RFC] schedule_timeout_range() David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  3:56   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-22  4:12     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  4:26       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-22  4:34         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  4:33       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-22  4:45         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  4:50           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-22  4:58             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-22  5:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-22  4:33     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-22  7:19 ` [RFC] Imprecise timers Rene Herman
2008-07-22 12:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-22 14:04     ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-07-29  0:36 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-08-09 12:54   ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-11 17:35     ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-12 12:00       ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-12 18:11         ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-12 21:55           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 21:58           ` Pavel Machek

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