From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mummy.ncsc.mil (mummy.ncsc.mil [144.51.88.129]) by tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m78ABLLP016320 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:11:21 -0400 Received: from house.lunarmania.com (jazzhorn.ncsc.mil [144.51.5.9]) by mummy.ncsc.mil (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m78ABKlm029150 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:11:21 GMT Message-ID: <489C1BB1.2060701@rubix.com> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:10:57 +0200 From: Andy Warner MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vesa-Matti J Kari CC: russell@coker.com.au, Casey Schaufler , SE-Linux Subject: Re: Request for multiple mailing lists References: <489B25B6.4080309@windriver.com> <489B3536.1060103@schaufler-ca.com> <200808081208.31741.russell@coker.com.au> <489C03E1.3060206@rubix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050004000407050009020607" Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050004000407050009020607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vesa-Matti J Kari wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Andy Warner wrote: > > >> Russell Coker wrote: >> >>> On Friday 08 August 2008 03:47, Casey Schaufler >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> SELinux without policy is like a book without pages. Think of >>>> the reference policy as the pages of the Old Testament. >>>> >>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis >>> >>> The problem with such analogies is that SE Linux policy is designed to be >>> unambiguous. See the above URL for details of the issue. >>> >>> >>> >> Is that supposed to be funny or just an great example of someone posting way >> off topic demonstrating the need for multiple mailing lists? >> > > There is nothing inherently funny with being logical and demanding > precision. Russell Coker's comment was quite good and to the point. You > should not compare SELinux policies, which are clear and precise, with > ancient mythology, and expect that everyone buys it. This world is full > of so-called Holy Books, after all. > > This list should focus on SELinux issues. > > Best regards, > vmk > Didn't realize the NSA was sponsoring a list for voicing religious bigotries. Or is that also an "SELinux issue?" --------------050004000407050009020607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Vesa-Matti J Kari wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Andy Warner wrote:

Russell Coker wrote:

On Friday 08 August 2008 03:47, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
wrote:

SELinux without policy is like a book without pages. Think of
the reference policy as the pages of the Old Testament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis

The problem with such analogies is that SE Linux policy is designed to be
unambiguous.  See the above URL for details of the issue.

Is that supposed to be funny or just an great example of someone posting way
off topic demonstrating the need for multiple mailing lists?


There is nothing inherently funny with being logical and demanding
precision. Russell Coker's comment was quite good and to the point. You
should not compare SELinux policies, which are clear and precise, with
ancient mythology, and expect that everyone buys it. This world is full
of so-called Holy Books, after all.

This list should focus on SELinux issues.

Best regards,
vmk

Didn't realize the NSA was sponsoring a list for voicing religious bigotries. Or is that also an "SELinux issue?"
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