From: Eric Mei <Eric.Mei@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] Security issues
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:14:48 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A07388.8080004@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C4C26F63.558B%peter.braam@sun.com>
Peter Braam wrote:
> Hi -
>
>
> On 8/8/08 11:44 AM, "Eric Mei" <Eric.Mei@Sun.COM> wrote:
>
>> Peter Braam wrote:
>>> On 8/8/08 11:03 AM, "Eric Barton" <eeb@sun.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Securing bulk data.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it _is_ appropriate to use the GSSAPI to secure the
>>> transfer of bulk data between client and server since it's
>>> effectively just
>>> another message. I can see (at least naively) that it would be good to
>>> avoid double encryption in the case where file contents are actually
>>> stored
>>> encrypted on disk.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are not telling me that we are going through a lot of re-design,
>>> that we are encrypting data and that then we are not storing it
>>> encrypted on disk? Come on, adding an EA with a key to decrypt is not
>>> so hard and one gets lots of value from it.
>>>
>>>
>>> But even in this case, don't we still have to sign the
>>> (encrypted) bulk so that the receiver can be sure it arrived intact?
>>>
>>> Well, yes, but as I indicated you can sign the hash that is stored on
>>> (ZFS) disk for this. That avoids generating the hash twice. So I am
>>> really not convinced yet.
>> Peter, are you saying that except using NASD-style protocol, we don't
>> need to encrypt/sign bulk data at all?
>
> You do need to sign it and encrypt it - for multiple purposes, to secure the
> wire transaction and for storage on the server.
Sorry I'm still a little confused. To be exactly clear, do you mean: In
the future we'll use NASD-style protocol to secure the bulk data's wire
transfer & storage on server; and for now we can simply leave the bulk
data unprotected?
--
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-11 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-05 18:12 [Lustre-devel] security: rpc message vs bulk data Eric Mei
2008-08-06 2:32 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-06 16:55 ` Eric Mei
2008-08-06 22:48 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-08 14:25 ` James Hughes
2008-08-08 14:45 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-08 17:03 ` [Lustre-devel] Security issues Eric Barton
2008-08-08 17:12 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-08 17:44 ` Eric Mei
2008-08-09 3:47 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-11 17:14 ` Eric Mei [this message]
2008-08-11 19:33 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-11 19:51 ` Eric Mei
2008-08-13 18:40 ` James Hughes
2008-08-13 22:26 ` Peter Braam
2008-08-11 12:56 ` Vitaly Fertman
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