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From: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	fernando-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org,
	balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Attaching threads to cgroups is OK?
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:03:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AE1061.3060800@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080820174334.a566a775.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>

Hi Kamezawa-san,

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:12:47 +0900 (JST)
> Hirokazu Takahashi <taka-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>>  - I think this kind of thread application should control its I/O requests
>>    inside of the application. I guess it seems to quite difficult to
>>    determine which thread is doing what kind of job in the application.
>>    We can just leave this issue to these type of applications, can we?
>>    I guess most of this kind of applications must have been well designed
>>    already.
>>
> I agree. (it's better to postpone this.)
> 
> But maybe cpuset (HPC) applications uses per-thread cgroup attachment.
> So, I can't say there is no trouble even if we ignore threads.
> 

Thank you for details.

I feel that we are near a consensus on this problem. To make clear this 
not only for developers but also for users what do you think about 
making documentation and implementing can_attach() to avoid not presumed 
attachments?

For example,
1. reject attachments of threads by can_attach(),
2. explain about what will and will not happen if we attach threads,
...

Thanks,
Yoshikawa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-22  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-19 10:38 RFC: Attaching threads to cgroups is OK? Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-08-19 11:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-20  7:41 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found] ` <48AAA296.8050802-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-19 11:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-19 12:27     ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <20080819202237.edd75933.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-19 12:27       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <48AABC31.7070207-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-19 12:52           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
     [not found]             ` <1219150334.14590.12.camel-xpvPi5bcW5X5OjGIXfuPlhrrLbDL3r4M6qtp775pBPw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-20  7:12               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-20  8:43                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                   ` <20080820174334.a566a775.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-22  1:03                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa [this message]
2008-08-22  1:03                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]                 ` <20080820.161247.64324924.taka-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-20  8:43                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-20  7:12             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-20  5:52           ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-08-19 12:52         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-20  5:52         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-08-20 11:48       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]         ` <20080820.204832.131207708.taka-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21  3:08           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
     [not found]             ` <1219288081.28324.30.camel-xpvPi5bcW5X5OjGIXfuPlhrrLbDL3r4M6qtp775pBPw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21  3:32               ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-21  5:25                 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
     [not found]                 ` <48ACE1B4.8010000-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21  5:25                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
     [not found]                     ` <1219296306.28324.82.camel-xpvPi5bcW5X5OjGIXfuPlhrrLbDL3r4M6qtp775pBPw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 10:28                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-22 18:55                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-25 10:36                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
     [not found]                           ` <1219660569.16371.161.camel-xpvPi5bcW5X5OjGIXfuPlhrrLbDL3r4M6qtp775pBPw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 11:50                             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-05 12:00                               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]                               ` <20080905.205016.28412219.taka-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 12:00                                 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-05 15:38                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-08  2:58                                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-09-08 12:47                                     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]                                     ` <20080905153832.GE13742-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08  2:58                                       ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-09-08 11:52                                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]                                         ` <48C494EB.4080502-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 11:52                                           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-08 12:47                                       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]                                   ` <20080905.210017.44596963.taka-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 15:38                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-05 11:50                           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
     [not found]                         ` <20080822185527.GD27964-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-25 10:36                           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-09-12 18:57                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-12 18:57                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-21 10:28                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-22 18:55                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-21  3:32             ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-21  3:08         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-20 11:48     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-20  7:41   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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2008-08-19 10:38 Takuya Yoshikawa

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