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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:25:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D159A7.5080907@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080917184618.GB6486@redhat.com>

Jason Baron wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> indeed both proposals seem to be addressing a similar core issue - being
> able to dynamically (as opposed to re-compiling) change the amount of
> verbosity that the kernel spews. I would liken it to adding a -verbose
> flag to the kernel.
> 
> Beyond that the 2 approaches differ in a number of ways as I see:
> 

8) The ability to accessed filtered messages a posteori (via dmesg), 
which is something we currently take for granted.

This *is* the fundamental difference between what Yinghai has now and 
both your stuff and Yinghai's original proposal.  Not producing the 
additional messages at all is inherently cheaper, sometimes *much* 
cheaper, but it obviously means the information is not accessible at all.

At the moment, I would argue that the fact that dmesg is, in effect, 
more verbose than the kernel itself is a good thing; it makes dmesg 
dumps more useful.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-17 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-17  8:27 [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] add DEFINE_LOGLEVEL_SETUP v7 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] pci: add KERN_PCI Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] pci: using printk(KERN_PCI v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17  8:41     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 10:11       ` Robert Richter
2008-09-17 16:25         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-17 23:03     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] acpi: add KERN_ACPI v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] apci: dump slit with printk(KERN_ACPI...) Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 18:19   ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-09-17 18:28     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 18:56       ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-09-17  8:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86: add KERN_APIC Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17  8:45     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:52       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 12:08       ` Frans Pop
2008-09-17 16:30         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17  8:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6 Andrew Morton
2008-09-17  9:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 18:46     ` Jason Baron
2008-09-17 19:25       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-09-18 10:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-18 15:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 15:50             ` Jason Baron
2008-09-18 15:57               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 16:19                 ` Jason Baron
2008-09-18 18:39                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 19:06                     ` Yinghai Lu

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