From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:25:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D159A7.5080907@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080917184618.GB6486@redhat.com>
Jason Baron wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> indeed both proposals seem to be addressing a similar core issue - being
> able to dynamically (as opposed to re-compiling) change the amount of
> verbosity that the kernel spews. I would liken it to adding a -verbose
> flag to the kernel.
>
> Beyond that the 2 approaches differ in a number of ways as I see:
>
8) The ability to accessed filtered messages a posteori (via dmesg),
which is something we currently take for granted.
This *is* the fundamental difference between what Yinghai has now and
both your stuff and Yinghai's original proposal. Not producing the
additional messages at all is inherently cheaper, sometimes *much*
cheaper, but it obviously means the information is not accessible at all.
At the moment, I would argue that the fact that dmesg is, in effect,
more verbose than the kernel itself is a good thing; it makes dmesg
dumps more useful.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-17 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-17 8:27 [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] add DEFINE_LOGLEVEL_SETUP v7 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] pci: add KERN_PCI Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] pci: using printk(KERN_PCI v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 8:41 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 10:11 ` Robert Richter
2008-09-17 16:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 22:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-09-17 23:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] acpi: add KERN_ACPI v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] apci: dump slit with printk(KERN_ACPI...) Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 18:19 ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-09-17 18:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 18:56 ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-09-17 8:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86: add KERN_APIC Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 8:45 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 12:08 ` Frans Pop
2008-09-17 16:30 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-17 8:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] loglevel=pci:8,acpi:8,apic=8 support v6 Andrew Morton
2008-09-17 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 18:46 ` Jason Baron
2008-09-17 19:25 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-09-18 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-18 15:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 15:50 ` Jason Baron
2008-09-18 15:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 16:19 ` Jason Baron
2008-09-18 18:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-18 19:06 ` Yinghai Lu
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