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From: Cedric Le Goater <clg-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] Enable multiple instances of devpts
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:58:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E0FB16.9050600@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080929152951.GA32518-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

>> | > The logic seems simple: With newinstance create a private namespace.
>> | > Without newinstance, bind to initial ns.
>> | 
>> | But if I'm in a container in a new mounts ns and somehow managed 
>> | to umount -l /dev/pts, shouldn't i be able to remount my container's
>> | devpts by just doing 'mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts'?

yes. That's the track we are following with the mq namespace.

>> Now wouldn't that require us to associate the devpts mount with some
>> notion of a container ? (a namespace object in nsproxy of container-init 
>> like we do with /proc).
> 
> Yes.

and it gets a little bit ugly because you need to maintain an internal
mount associated with the namespace to be able to remount the same
superblock when a :

	$ umount /dev/pts
	$ mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts'?

is done.

So if you're using the mount option 'newinstance' to unshare the 
namespace, you end up doing the internal mount and the user mount 
under the same call, which is a bit weird, indeed.

C.

>> Yes, after 'umount -l'  we have lost _that_ devpts ns and we may have to
>> 'redo' the relevant container-init parts
> 
> It all just feels fragile.
> 
> I realize this is an attempt to do the 'pure fs approach' you were asked
> to do.  I just don't like the resulting 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-12 17:48 [PATCH 0/10][v4]: Enable multiple devpts instances sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <20080912174845.GA17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-12 17:50   ` [PATCH 01/10] Remove devpts_root global sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175057.GB17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 17:04       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:51   ` [PATCH 02/10] Per-mount allocated_ptys sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175116.GC17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 17:14       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20080924171408.GB25255-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-27  1:12           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-09-12 17:51   ` [PATCH 03/10] Per-mount 'config' object sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175135.GD17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 17:20       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:51   ` [PATCH 04/10] Extract option parsing to new function sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175153.GE17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 17:23       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:52   ` [PATCH 05/10] Add DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES config token sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175210.GF17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 17:24       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:52   ` [PATCH 06/10] Define mknod_ptmx() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175237.GG17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 18:21       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20080924182125.GF25255-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 21:32           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-09-24 18:50       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20080924185046.GA31535-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 21:29           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]             ` <20080926212954.GE31505-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 13:14               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:52   ` [PATCH 07/10] Update ptmx permissions during remount sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175252.GH17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 18:30       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 17:53   ` [PATCH 08/10] Define get_sb_ref() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175308.GI17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 19:20       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-24 19:55       ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-26 21:21         ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]           ` <20080926212115.GD31505-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 21:31             ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-27  0:47               ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]                 ` <20080927004727.GA2161-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 14:00                   ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                     ` <48E0DF71.2070007-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-30 15:13                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080930151325.GA26713-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-01 12:38                           ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-27 20:29               ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]                 ` <20080927202924.GA16208-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-04  3:09                   ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-09-12 17:53   ` [PATCH 09/10] Enable multiple instances of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175322.GJ17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-24 20:26       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20080924202616.GB31664-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 21:03           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]             ` <20080926210347.GB31505-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 13:01               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20080929130131.GA12531-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 15:18                   ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]                     ` <20080929151828.GA10202-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 15:29                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080929152951.GA32518-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-29 15:58                           ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
2008-09-29 14:06               ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-12 17:53   ` [PATCH 10/10] Document usage of multiple-instances " sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080912175347.GK17350-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-19 15:33       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]         ` <20080919163311.626b715f-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-19 16:53           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-20 16:17           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]             ` <20080920161717.GA23693-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 13:29               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20080922132937.GA11932-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 19:25                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-22 16:16               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20080922161658.GA27087-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 16:33                   ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-09-24 20:36       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20080924203650.GC31664-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 21:05           ` sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8

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