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From: Tilman Baumann <tilman.baumann@collax.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SMACK netfilter smacklabel socket match
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E3AB97.8020305@collax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E3957A.7040201@schaufler-ca.com>

Casey Schaufler wrote:
> Tilman Baumann wrote:
>> Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>> Smack will eventually bite you if you're not careful, but users of
>>> MAC systems wouldn't be surprised by that.
>> Speaking of the devil...
>> This is exactly what happened to me right now. I have problems with 
>> _some_ https connects. The problem lies somewhere in openssl.
>> I did not yet find any clue with strace.
>> Is there some straight forward way to audit/debug LSM interventions?
> 
> strace is probably your best bet, as it will tell you what syscalls
> fail. Your current situation is most likely a case where your program
> running with a label "Foo" is trying to communicate with a service on
> a machine that doesn't talk CIPSO and hence Smack is treating all
> packets to and from that host with the ambient (%cat /smack/ambient)
> label, which is "_" unless you've changed it.

Yea, I just found that out.
I did not expect smack to add netlabels by default. I thought I would 
need to configure something before it will start adding netlabels 'on 
the wire'.
In my case 'security' is something that should only concern the local 
machine.
Unfortunately I never bothered to test this before. :-/

If I set /smack/nltype to 'unlabeled' I have effectively shut off the 
network.
I guess I'm missing some essential point here.
Sorry to bother you with such trivialities.

btw. I find it very hard to find informations on the various files in 
/smack/ and it's respective intention and formating rules. 
security/smack/smackfs.c helps a bit.

This is my current setup:
/smack/ambient (default)
/smack/load = _ foo rwx
Unlabeled process work fine.
Labeled processes produce CIPSO labeled packets (which never get any 
answer anywhere from the internet)

If i set /smack/nltype to 'unlabled' i don't even get SYN packets out. 
(operation not permitted)

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-01 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-25 17:25 SMACK netfilter smacklabel socket match Tilman Baumann
2008-09-25 18:26 ` Paul Moore
2008-09-25 19:26   ` Tilman Baumann
2008-09-25 19:57     ` Paul Moore
2008-09-25 20:32       ` Tilman Baumann
2008-09-26 12:35   ` Tilman Baumann
2008-09-26 19:55     ` Paul Moore
2008-09-26  3:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-09-26  8:19   ` Tilman Baumann
2008-09-27  5:01     ` Casey Schaufler
2008-09-29 16:21       ` Tilman Baumann
2008-09-30  3:29         ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-01 11:29           ` Tilman Baumann
2008-10-01 15:21             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-01 16:55               ` Tilman Baumann [this message]
2008-10-01 18:22                 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-06 12:57                   ` Tilman Baumann
2008-10-06 23:05                     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-10-07  2:42                     ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-17 16:57                       ` Tilman Baumann
2008-10-17 17:53                         ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-20 12:06                           ` Tilman Baumann
2008-10-20 15:01                             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-22  3:36                             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-30 16:06                               ` Tilman Baumann
2008-10-31  3:46                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-12-11  0:03                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-12-11 10:18                                   ` Tilman Baumann
2008-12-11 16:29                                     ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-23 11:55                           ` Paul Moore

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