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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@bull.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:17:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48EBEE0B.6080009@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EB53B8.5020309@kernel.org>

Hello, a bit of additions after some sleep.

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> IIRC, the original readdir implementation put a cursor entry to walk
> through the children list.  The implementation was horribly broken in
> a number of different ways (ISTR problems with locking and multiple
> and different type of walkers) and I just gutted out all the
> complexity out and made it simple as getting it correct was far more
> important and there seemed to be little need for optimization.
> 
> Yeah, using RCU sounds like a plan.

Heh... it did sound like a plan but I don't think the plan would solve
the problem.  filldir can't be put in rcu read critical section.  :-p

>> The revalidate on access model doesn't appear to have a way to track
>> remote renames.  Something sysfs supports.
> 
> Yeap, IIRC, one of the reasons why sysfs wasn't converted over to
> sysfs was because sysfs guarantees inode doesn't change over rename or
> move so that notifications keep working over renames.

s/over to sysfs/over to revalidation/ and s/inode/dentry/.  Maybe we can
just ignore dnotify?  :-(

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-07 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-22 14:31 sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet Benjamin Thery
2008-09-22 15:34 ` Greg KH
2008-09-22 20:24   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-23 14:24   ` Benjamin Thery
2008-09-23 18:23     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-03 10:13       ` Al Viro
2008-10-05  5:32         ` Greg KH
2008-10-07  8:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:47             ` [PATCH 0/3] minor sysfs tagged directory fixes Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:49               ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:51                 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:52                   ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs: Take sysfs_mutex when fetching the root inode Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 21:21                   ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 21:19                 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 22:31                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 22:27             ` sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet Greg KH
2008-10-07 22:54               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:39                 ` Greg KH
2008-10-08  0:12                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-08  0:38                     ` Greg KH
2008-10-08 14:18                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:34               ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14  1:11                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14  7:55                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14 12:19                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 11:04                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-16 21:58                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14 18:53                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15  0:48                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 13:42                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15 13:54                           ` Benjamin Thery
2008-10-08  0:39               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08  1:29               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07  8:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07  9:01         ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-07  9:12         ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 11:56           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 12:19             ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 23:17               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-10-08  0:04                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08  0:20                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-08  0:58                     ` Eric W. Biederman

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