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From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Gabriele Moabiti <gabmoa@domain.hid>
Cc: Xenomai help <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] trap exceptions in user
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:50:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48EC908D.9060902@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563071.90718.qm@domain.hid>

Gabriele Moabiti wrote:
> 
>> I think you are traping yourself with impossible constraints.
>>
>> Anyway, the only way is register a custom exception handler using rthal
>> functions. In your trap handler, you may wake up a user-space server
>> thread which role is to handle exceptions (in user-space). This means that:
>> - upon exception, you have a switch to the user-space server thread
>> context, this will be slow;
> 
> Do I change rthal inside xenomai? How can I do?
> Is there a benchmark or some number to understand better this slowness (in us)?

Every context switch (including kernel/user switches) costs time. There
is a switchbench test which measures the user to user context switch
time. Look at rthal_trap_catch. In your exception handler, you have to
take care about whether the fault was directed to your particular
application and let the fault be handled normally otherwise.

> 
>> - you have to rewrite the exception handling code, you can not rely
>> on the exception handling code that was written in the assembly blob.
>>
>> I do not think it is a good idea to simply override the exception
>> vectors, the kernel uses them, and you certainly want the kernel to
>> continue working.
>  
> Yes I think so
> 
> Now SIS is about 500 kb of pure asm and works with a big cli on start and a sti
> on finish @ring 0 and reprogram the exception vectors but I want to integrate into xenomai. 
> 
> Proposal:
> 
> - At start SIS save the addresses of the exception vectors
> - When an exception is raised then the processor switch to the custom exception vectors but
>   if the SIS is not currently active then jump to the old exception vectors

You say yes, then propose to do what I told you was a bad idea. So, I
repeat: this is a bad idea. I think it is better not to touch the
hardware vector and use the trap interception mechanism proposed by
Xenomai rthal. And split exception handling in a kernel-space handler
which signals a user-space server thread.

-- 
					    Gilles.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-08 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-08 10:34 [Xenomai-help] trap exceptions in user Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-08 10:50 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-24 19:17 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-26 23:49 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-24 15:30 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-24 13:53 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-24 17:43 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-24 17:44   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-15 15:30 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-15 15:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-10-14 10:01 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-14 10:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-10-14 12:13   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-13  9:55 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-11 19:32 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-11 19:34 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-11 21:35 ` Philippe Gerum
2008-10-10 17:57 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-10 16:02 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-10 16:04 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-11 11:24 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-10 15:24 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-10 15:38 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-10 13:50 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-10 14:00 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-08 11:32 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-08 12:29 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
     [not found] <296620.67855.qm@domain.hid>
2008-10-08 10:09 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-10-03 12:30 Gabriele Moabiti
2008-10-03 14:58 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix

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