From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: tip tree clone fail Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:09:19 -0700 Message-ID: <48F2C9EF.4020203@zytor.com> References: <20081010083720.GA32069@elte.hu> <48EF14FC.1000801@cn.fujitsu.com> <48EF1902.4070309@cn.fujitsu.com> <48EF7BC1.4000401@zytor.com> <20081012124105.GA26988@elte.hu> <48F20663.2040407@zytor.com> <20081012152427.GA4607@elte.hu> <20081012153952.GV10544@machine.or.cz> <20081012165954.GA2317@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Petr Baudis , Wang Chen , Thomas Gleixner , FNST-Lai Jiangshan , FJ-KOSAKI Motohiro , git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano To: Ingo Molnar X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Oct 13 06:11:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KpElq-0000x1-Tw for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:11:03 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752547AbYJMEJw (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:09:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752583AbYJMEJv (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:09:51 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:45280 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752264AbYJMEJv (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:09:51 -0400 Received: from mail.hos.anvin.org (c-98-210-181-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.210.181.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by terminus.zytor.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9D49Kdi013964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:09:20 -0700 Received: from tazenda.hos.anvin.org (tazenda.hos.anvin.org [172.27.0.16]) by mail.hos.anvin.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9D49J6V006516; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:09:19 -0700 Received: from tazenda.hos.anvin.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tazenda.hos.anvin.org (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9D49J88023869; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:09:19 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) In-Reply-To: <20081012165954.GA2317@elte.hu> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8416/Sun Oct 12 20:12:39 2008 on terminus.zytor.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Ingo Molnar wrote: > > Soapbox: in fact it would be outright stupid to limit the kernel > source's availability artificially by not making HTTP a tier-one access > method. > > Fighting against HTTP-only firewalls is like constantly pointing it out > to the popular press that they should say 'cracker' instead of 'hacker'. > It is pointless and only hurts the availability our own project. > Yes, and Shawn Pierce is working on making HTTP a proper "smart" access method, based on a proposal I submitted. That is the proper solution, since it avoids all the braindamage of "dumb" access methods. We [kernel.org] intend to deploy it as soon as it is available. -hpa