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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Prepare virtio for upstream QEMU merging
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:55:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F70F86.7080205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F5F9FE.3010200@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>> But that will require refactoring a lot of these optimizations.  In 
>>> order to do that right, they need to be presented on qemu-devel.  
>>> It's a whole lot easier to do that incrementally so that people can 
>>> digest it all instead of blasting a big series.
>>
>> Can you elaborate?  Which interfaces will need rework, and why?
>
> Last time I tried, virtio-net doesn't work with slirp.  I believe it's 
> either because of the GSO changes (unlikely) or because of the 
> can_receive changes (more likely).  The can_receive changes probably 
> need some refactoring to be more slirp friendly.  The GSO changes are 
> a bit vlan unfriendly.
>
> Right now, you could construct something like -net tap -net 
> nic,model=virtio -net model=e1000.  e1000 doesn't support GSO and bad 
> things will happen from this.  It's very centric to the single-nic, 
> single-host driver model.  Also,  exposing something like 
> tap_has_vnet_hdr() to the actual network cards violates the layering.  
> The network cards shouldn't have any knowledge of what types of host 
> drivers there are, just what features a particular VLAN supports.
>
> It's also unclear how you handle things like NIC hot-plug.  What if 
> you add a nic that doesn't support GSO to a VLAN that is using GSO?  
> What about migration?  What if you migrate from a host that has GSO 
> support to a host that doesn't support GSO?  This later problem is 
> hard and would require either a feature renegotiation mechanism in 
> virtio or software implementation of GSO within QEMU.

Okay, we can go along with mangling the current virtio implementation 
like you proposed.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


      reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-13 18:28 [PATCH][RFC] Prepare virtio for upstream QEMU merging Anthony Liguori
2008-10-14 16:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-14 16:21   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-14 17:30     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-14 18:08       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-15 13:57         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-15 14:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-16  9:55             ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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