From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:15:32 +0200 From: "M. Peterson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_170034_30205495.1224530132371" Subject: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ Reply-To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking , List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: "green@cherrypal.com" ------=_Part_170034_30205495.1224530132371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Here the idea, i posted some weeks ago... every openmoko phone a hotspot http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%2F0810%2F63054.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8 ------=_Part_170034_30205495.1224530132371 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_170034_30205495.1224530132371-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <46faed20810201234q122e31ddle8fbcb1b29daea74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:34:20 +0200 From: "Steven Leeman" Sender: steven.leeman@gmail.com Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25313_8224041.1224531260137" References: Reply-To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking ------=_Part_25313_8224041.1224531260137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is drained within 2 hours... I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and best of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so even with a powerplug you have no chance :-) On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:15 PM, M. Peterson wrote: > Here the idea, i posted some weeks ago... every openmoko phone a hotspot > http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ > > http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%2F0810%2F63054.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8 > > _______________________________________________ > B.A.T.M.A.N mailing list > B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net > https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n > > ------=_Part_25313_8224041.1224531260137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is drained within 2 hours...
I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and best of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so even with a powerplug you have no chance :-)


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------=_Part_25313_8224041.1224531260137-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <48FD001A.5030808@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:03:06 +0200 From: elektra MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ References: <46faed20810201234q122e31ddle8fbcb1b29daea74@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46faed20810201234q122e31ddle8fbcb1b29daea74@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking Hi - > I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is > drained within 2 hours... this is the crux of current WiFi interfaces in mobile phones. WiFi consumes way to much power - especially if a phone forwards traffic for other devices. It is possible - but the mobile handset will need to have the size and weight of a mobile phone 8 years ago, simply to provide the battery capacity. Batman-Experimental has an option to disable routing traffic for other phones (--asocial-device : mobile device mode reluctant to help others). An "asocial" device will just make itself known to the existing mesh infrastructure and use the closest Batman node as a gateway. It will only reply to Originator messages originated by the chosen gateway. Together with a slow OGM interval you can roam within an existing mesh infrastructure without wearing your batteries out quickly. > I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and best > of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so even > with a powerplug you have no chance :-) That sounds like a miserable design. Cheers, elektra From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <82DC9B9B-E0E1-4FF5-88CE-8BC68BFFE7D1@meshfi.com> From: Tony Whelan In-Reply-To: <48FD001A.5030808@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5F136) Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:30:36 -0400 References: <46faed20810201234q122e31ddle8fbcb1b29daea74@mail.gmail.com> <48FD001A.5030808@gmx.net> Reply-To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking The next gen of nanophosphate batteries should help with the power issues. Tony Whelan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:03 PM, elektra wrote: > Hi - >> I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is >> drained within 2 hours... > > this is the crux of current WiFi interfaces in mobile phones. WiFi > consumes way to much power - especially if a phone forwards traffic > for other devices. It is possible - but the mobile handset will need > to have the size and weight of a mobile phone 8 years ago, simply to > provide the battery capacity. Batman-Experimental has an option to > disable routing traffic for other phones (--asocial-device : mobile > device mode reluctant to help others). An "asocial" device will just > make itself known to the existing mesh infrastructure and use the > closest Batman node as a gateway. It will only reply to Originator > messages originated by the chosen gateway. Together with a slow OGM > interval you can roam within an existing mesh infrastructure without > wearing your batteries out quickly. > >> I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and >> best of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so >> even with a powerplug you have no chance :-) > > That sounds like a miserable design. > > Cheers, > > elektra > > _______________________________________________ > B.A.T.M.A.N mailing list > B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net > https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n