From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>
Cc: Christian Mueller <Christian.Mueller@wdc.com>,
Bruce Allen <ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu>,
Smartmontools Mailing List
<smartmontools-support@lists.sourceforge.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [smartmontools-support] inactive SATA drives won't stay in standby or sleep, PATA models did. (fwd)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:02:08 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48FD9A90.8000205@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18685.35653.125899.390135@harpo.it.uu.se>
Hello,
Mikael Pettersson wrote:
> Tejun Heo writes:
> > Hello, Mikael.
> > I would put this into ->hardreset itself as the controller can also
> > get out of sync with reality during reset.
>
> The only thing I see going on between prereset and (hard/soft)reset
> is an optional freeze, so I don't see why moving the pdc_reset_port()
> into the beginning of hardreset() would make any difference.
>
> sata_promise currently uses the ->hardreset and ->softreset inherited
> from ata_sff_port_ops, so it would need to override both to ensure that
> we always do pdc_reset_port() before libata does its thing. That's why
> I felt doing that in ->prereset would be the right solution.
Hmm.. reset sequence goes on like the following.
1. prereset
2. hardreset, if fail, retry
3. follow-up softreset if requested, if fail, goto #2
4. postreset, if successful
So, if some PHY event happens while the reset is waiting for device
readiness and makes the controller state go out of sync with the
drive. ->prereset() will NOT be called for the following retry.
As a rule, ->hardreset should be able to reset the controller from all
possible situations. ->prereset can be used to smooth out initial
reset tries (ie. during initial probing, waiting for device readiness
before SRST for SFF controllers w/o hardreset) but at best its
function is advisory. When things go wrong, ->hardreset should be
able to provide solution whatever state the controller is in.
If both hard and soft resets work better with the controller reset
added, I think it would be best to override both.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-21 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-10-08 0:20 ` [smartmontools-support] inactive SATA drives won't stay in standby or sleep, PATA models did. (fwd) Christian Mueller
2008-10-08 0:28 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-12 14:55 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-13 5:16 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-13 7:03 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-13 7:08 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-19 23:40 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-21 4:18 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-21 7:56 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-21 9:02 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-10-21 9:30 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-21 7:59 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-10-21 8:55 ` Tejun Heo
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[not found] ` <48E1B8F8.3090205@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <48E26BDA.8080804@tlinx.org>
[not found] ` <48E26E61.2010705@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <48E34BC8.3050009@tlinx.org>
[not found] ` <48E6DE07.70706@gmail.com>
2008-10-07 0:37 ` Linda Walsh
2008-10-07 1:08 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 1:36 ` Linda Walsh
2008-10-07 1:42 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 10:13 ` Linda Walsh
2008-10-07 22:27 ` Linda Walsh
2008-10-07 23:59 ` Tejun Heo
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