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From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Chris PeBenito <pebenito@ieee.org>,
	SELinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Split up policycoreutils
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:15:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48da99c2-e674-36c5-68d2-fcd2b9911801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c579f68-4125-c2e2-a2d9-6d801f7f7de9@tycho.nsa.gov>



On 10/24/2016 09:21 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 10/24/2016 09:13 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> On 10/22/2016 09:44 AM, Chris PeBenito wrote:
>>> On 10/21/16 13:47, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>> policycoreutils started life as a small set of utilities that were
>>>> necessary or at least widely used in production on a SELinux system.
>>>> Over time though it has grown to include many optional components, and
>>>> even within a given subdirectory (e.g. sepolicy) there seem to be a
>>>> number of components that should be optional (e.g. the dbus service).
>>>> I'd like to propose that we move a number of components out of
>>>> policycoreutils into their own top-level subdirectory (possibly grouping
>>>> some of the related ones together).
>>> I'm not sure where the main part of sepolicy should go, but it would be
>>> nice to split it out since it depends on setools which has heavier
>>> dependencies than a core system package should typically have IMO
>>> (NetworkX, which pulls in scipy, numpy, matplotlib, etc.)
>> I would be in favor of that too, but hesitated to do so because it would
>> require moving audit2allow and semanage out of policycoreutils as well.
>> Fedora does package those as part of policycoreutils-python (along with
>> sepolgen).  Arguably audit2allow isn't necessary for production (but
>> many users of SELinux in Linux distributions rely on it), but semanage
>> is more fundamental these days.
>>
>> However, if people are open to moving sepolicy, audit2allow, and
>> semanage, possibly combining them with sepolgen in a new
>> subdirectory/package, then we could explore that.
> We'd also need to move chcat, since it imports seobject.  However, on
> that topic, is there any reason to retain chcat?  It was created for the
> original discretionary MCS model and I'm not sure it is used anymore by
> anyone.
>
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I would suggest we remove it.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-24 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-21 17:47 [RFC] Split up policycoreutils Stephen Smalley
2016-10-21 18:11 ` Daniel J Walsh
2016-10-21 21:06   ` Paul Moore
2016-10-22 13:44 ` Chris PeBenito
2016-10-24 13:13   ` Stephen Smalley
2016-10-24 13:16     ` Dominick Grift
2016-10-24 13:21     ` Stephen Smalley
2016-10-24 21:15       ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
2016-10-25  5:47         ` Dominick Grift
2016-10-31  9:27       ` Sven Vermeulen
2016-10-31 14:29         ` Stephen Smalley
2016-10-25  3:49     ` Jason Zaman
2016-10-25 22:12       ` Chris PeBenito
2016-10-24  9:28 ` Petr Lautrbach
2016-10-24 12:33 ` Sven Vermeulen
2016-10-31 18:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2016-10-31 18:11   ` Dominick Grift
     [not found]   ` <eaeb9dc4-e69f-47de-50ad-083ce97e1153@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <98931665-f141-29e3-fb3a-9335e58874b0@tycho.nsa.gov>
2016-10-31 18:26       ` Dominick Grift
2016-10-31 18:42   ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-01 19:00   ` Daniel J Walsh
2016-11-08 19:42   ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-14 20:41     ` Jason Zaman
2016-11-15 14:47       ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-15 15:01         ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-15 16:30           ` Jason Zaman
2016-11-16 19:00             ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-16 19:07               ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-18 12:40         ` Daniel J Walsh

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