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From: Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com>
To: Robert Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	gimp-print-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Printing-architecture] [Gimp-print-devel] Looking ahead to 5.3
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:59:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49043F9D.7000603@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200810252249.m9PMnrSo030956@dsl092-065-009.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net>

Robert Krawitz wrote:
>    Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:38:58 +0200
>    From: Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com>
>    MIME-Version: 1.0
>    CC: Robert Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>,
> 	   printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org,
> 	   gimp-print-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, peter@mmiworks.net
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
>    Alastair M. Robinson wrote:
>    > Hi :)
>    > 
>    > Robert Krawitz wrote:
>    > 
>    >> When you get right down to it, Gutenprint at its core really is a
>    >> hardware driver (or a package of hardware drivers).  It's not an
>    >> application the way GIMP is -- it's a piece of infrastructure.
>    > 
>    > True - however it doesn't have the luxury enjoyed by other pieces of 
>    > infrastructure of being isolated from end-users.  If I go to 
>    > localhost:631, click on my printer and hit Set Printer Options, I see a 
>    > user-interface.  CUPS *presents* this user-interface, but which controls 
>    > I see and how they're grouped is determined by Gutenprint.  It may not 
>    > be an application, but there are user-facing aspects.
>    > 
>    > Incidentally, Peter, if an option exists in the PPD but isn't tagged, 
>    > what happens?  Will it appear in the Common Printing Dialog?
>    > And what happens if an APPrinterPreset specifies a value for an untagged 
>    > option?  Will it still be set?
> 
>    See my specs of the PPD extensions for the Common Printing Dialog:
> 
>    http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/PPDExtensions
> 
>    Untagged PPDs will use the PPD groups as tags as a fallback. So options 
>    will be shown in a reasonable order, But the advantage of one option 
>    baing able to have more than one tag is not made use of with this fallback.
> 
> What happens if there are more than 11 or what have you PPD groups?
> Same as what you describe below?
> 

Yes.

>    Each APPrinterPreset will create a quick preset button in the left
>    column of the dialog. And the button will always set all options
>    which it is supposed to set, independent of tags and groups.
> 
> What's the upper limit on the number of presets?
> 

There is no upper limit defined. Peter, what should happen if there are 
too many quick preset buttons to fit into the area on the left?

    Till

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-26  9:59 UTC|newest]

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2008-10-22 14:49     ` [Printing-architecture] [Gimp-print-devel] Looking ahead to 5.3 Till Kamppeter
2008-10-22 15:17       ` peter sikking
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2008-10-24  8:52           ` peter sikking
2008-10-24 10:08             ` Till Kamppeter
2008-10-24 12:35             ` Alastair M. Robinson
2008-10-24 18:34               ` Hal V. Engel
     [not found]                 ` <49021D0B.4040708@apple.com>
2008-10-25  0:46                   ` Alastair M. Robinson
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2008-10-25 17:43                   ` Alastair M. Robinson
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2008-10-25 19:35                       ` Alastair M. Robinson
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2008-10-26  0:41                           ` Alastair M. Robinson
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2008-10-26  1:18                               ` Alastair M. Robinson
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2008-10-28 12:59                                         ` Till Kamppeter
2008-10-28 15:19                                           ` Till Kamppeter
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2008-10-31  1:53                                                   ` Alastair M. Robinson
2008-10-25 22:38                     ` Till Kamppeter
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2008-10-26  9:59                         ` Till Kamppeter [this message]
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2008-10-22 17:15     ` [Printing-architecture] [Gimp-print-devel] [Openicc] " Hal V. Engel
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2008-10-26 18:40     ` [Printing-architecture] [Gimp-print-devel] " Hal V. Engel
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2008-10-26 21:23         ` Hal V. Engel

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