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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] KVM: MMU: prepopulate the shadow on invlpg
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:58:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490B6359.7000307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081031194727.GD21772@dmt.cnet>

Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>> +		sw->pte_gpa = (sp->gfn << PAGE_SHIFT);
>>> +		sw->pte_gpa += (sptep - sp->spt) * sizeof(pt_element_t);
>>> +
>>> +		if (is_shadow_present_pte(*sptep)) {
>>>  			rmap_remove(vcpu->kvm, sptep);
>>> +			sw->pte_gpa = -1;
>>>   
>>>       
>> Why?  The pte could have heen replaced (for example, a write access to a  
>> cow page).
>>     
>
> Well look-aheads on address space teardown will be useless. OTOH the
> guest pte read cost is minimal compared to an exit.
>   

Don't understand.  We will incur an exit if a pte is replaced and 
invlpg'ed due to a copy-on-write (do guests actually execute invlpg 
after a cow? I don't think they have to).

What is the downside?  A pagetable teardown that does not involve 
zeroing the page?  I don't think we'll see invlpg on that path, more 
likely a complete tlb flush.

> Whatever you prefer. Learning guest behaviour as suggested earlier would 
> be optimal, but simple is good.
>   

We're way past simple.  We can reclaim some of the complexity by always 
doing unsync, and dropping emulation and kvm_mmu_set_pte(), but need to 
make sure we don't regress on performance.  I think Windows does a pde 
write on context switch, which will add a vmexit, but Windows 
applications are not too context switch intensive AFAIK.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-31 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-25 22:31 [patch 0/3] oos shadow optimizations Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: MMU: collapse remote TLB flushes on root sync Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:17   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 23:26     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-30 10:04       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:30         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: MMU: skip global pgtables on sync due to cr3 switch Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:27   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:36     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:43       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:59           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 3/3] KVM: MMU: prepopulate the shadow on invlpg Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:48   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:47     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:58       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-31 22:33         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-11-02  8:39           ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-02 16:08             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-11-02 16:14               ` Avi Kivity

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