From: Oliver Hartkopp <oliver@hartkopp.net>
To: Patrick Ohly <patrick.ohly@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
Ingo Oeser <netdev@axxeo.de>,
"Ronciak, John" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] hardware time stamping + igb example implementation
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:44:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <491B23FE.9000105@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1226507118.31699.91.camel@ecld0pohly>
Patrick Ohly wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 16:06 +0000, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>> As a general comment on the patch series I'm still a little sceptical
>> the time stamp offset method is a good idea. Since it tries to approximate
>> several unsynchronized clocks the result will always be of a little poor
>> quality, which will likely lead to problems sooner or later (or rather
>> require ugly workarounds in the user).
>>
>> I think it would be better to just bite the bullet and add new fields
>> for this to the skbs. Hardware timestamps are useful enough to justify
>> this.
>>
>
> I'm all for it, as long as it doesn't keep this feature out of the
> mainline.
>
> At least one additional ktime_t field would be needed for the raw
> hardware time stamp. Transformation to system time (as needed by PTP)
> would have to be delayed until the packet is delivered via a socket. The
> code would be easier (and a bit more accurate) if also another ktime_t
> was added to store the transformed value directly after generating it.
>
> An extra field would also solve one of the open problems (tstamp set to
> time stamp when dev_start_xmit_hard is called for IP_MULTICAST_LOOP).
>
>
I really wondered if you posted the series to get an impression why
adding a new field is a good idea ;-)
Ok, i'm not that experienced on timestamps but i really got confused
reading the patches and it's documentation (even together with the
discussion on the ML). I would also vote for having a new field in the
skb instead of this current 'bit-compression' approach which smells
quite expensive at runtime and in code size. Not talking about the
mentioned potential locking issues ...
Regards,
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-12 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-11 14:44 [RFC PATCH 00/13] hardware time stamping + igb example implementation Patrick Ohly
2008-10-22 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] extended semantic of sk_buff::tstamp: lowest bit marks hardware time stamps Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 7:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-12 8:09 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 10:09 ` David Miller
2008-11-12 9:58 ` David Miller
2008-11-19 12:50 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-10-22 12:46 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] put_cmsg_compat + SO_TIMESTAMP[NS]: use same name for value as caller Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 9:55 ` David Miller
2008-10-22 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] user space API for time stamping of incoming and outgoing packets Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 10:02 ` David Miller
2008-10-24 13:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] net: implement generic SOF_TIMESTAMPING_TX_* support Patrick Ohly
2008-11-11 23:15 ` Octavian Purdila
2008-11-12 8:38 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-10-24 13:49 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] ip: support for TX timestamps on UDP and RAW sockets Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 9:59 ` David Miller
2008-10-29 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] workaround: detect time stamp when command flags are expected Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 10:00 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 11:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] net: add SIOCSHWTSTAMP - hardware time stamping of packets Patrick Ohly
2008-10-31 12:21 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] igb: stub support for SIOCSHWTSTAMP Patrick Ohly
2008-11-04 9:23 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] clocksource: allow usage independent of timekeeping.c Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 10:04 ` David Miller
2008-11-04 9:27 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] igb: infrastructure for hardware time stamping Patrick Ohly
2008-11-05 9:58 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] time sync: generic infrastructure to map between time stamps generated by a clock source and system time Patrick Ohly
2008-11-11 16:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 8:01 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 10:08 ` David Miller
2008-11-12 16:14 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 16:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-12 10:05 ` David Miller
2008-11-06 11:13 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] igb: use clocksync to implement hardware time stamping Patrick Ohly
2008-11-07 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] skbuff: optionally store hardware time stamps in new field Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] hardware time stamping + igb example implementation Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 16:25 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-11-12 18:44 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2008-11-12 19:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-12 20:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 20:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 20:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-12 21:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 22:26 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2008-11-13 15:53 ` Ohly, Patrick
2008-11-13 6:15 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2008-11-13 6:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 16:05 ` Ohly, Patrick
2008-11-16 8:15 ` Andrew Shewmaker
2008-11-12 22:17 ` David Miller
2008-11-19 12:39 ` Patrick Ohly
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=491B23FE.9000105@hartkopp.net \
--to=oliver@hartkopp.net \
--cc=ak@linux.intel.com \
--cc=dada1@cosmosbay.com \
--cc=john.ronciak@intel.com \
--cc=netdev@axxeo.de \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=opurdila@ixiacom.com \
--cc=patrick.ohly@intel.com \
--cc=shemminger@vyatta.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.