From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: suparna@in.ibm.com, Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
linux-aio@kvack.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: kvm aio wishlist
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:51:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <492C2D11.2030308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081125145949.GD14147@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a variant of syslet, that is kernel-only, and does:
>>
>> - always allocate a new kernel stack at io_submit() time, but not a
>> new thread
>>
>
> such a N:M threading design is a loss - sooner or later we arrive to a
> point where people actually start using it and then we want to
> load-balance and schedule these entities.
>
It's only N:M as long as its nonblocking. If it blocks it becomes 1:1
again. If it doesn't, it's probably faster to do things on the same
cache as the caller.
> So i'd suggest the kthread based async engine i wrote for syslets. It
> worked well and for kernel-only entities it schedules super-fast - it
> can do up to 20 million events per second on a 16-way box i'm testing
> on. The objections about syslets were not related to the scheduling of
> it but were mostly about the userspace API/ABI: you dont have to use
> that.
I'd love to have something :)
I guess any cache and latency considerations could be fixed if
- we schedule a syslet for the first time when the thread that launched
it exits to userspace
- we queue it on the current cpu's runqueue
In that case, for the nonblocking case syslets and fibrils would have
very similar performance.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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2008-11-25 10:19 ` kvm aio wishlist Suparna Bhattacharya
2008-11-25 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-25 14:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-25 15:10 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-25 15:25 ` Zach Brown
2008-11-25 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-25 16:55 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-25 16:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-25 16:51 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-11-25 16:56 ` Ingo Molnar
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