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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Andries E. Brouwer" <Andries.Brouwer-rh8NL+sEX9E@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	List util-linux-ng
	<util-linux-ng-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] devpts man page update
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:35:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <493458A4.3010306@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201210835.GA14009@ub>

Andries E. Brouwer wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> At some point in time I cleaned up the messy and incomplete mount docs
> and wrote the nicely structured and complete mount(8). Of course as
> time passes completeness can be lost, and the page can become unwieldy
> because of excessive length. The page I am looking at has roughly 1500
> lines, of which roughly 1000 are about filesystem-specific mount options.
> Maybe a bit long, but since this length is caused by a list that is
> alphabetically sorted and has entries that tend to be only a few dozen
> lines long, I do not mind this length so much.
> 
> Perhaps Peter complains about something else when he sees a mess?
> 

No, but I really don't think it's appropriate to just tag on and on to a
single man page.  I know that I find it incredibly painful to wade
through the long list of options, most of which don't apply to me.

Lists within lists don't visually scan well.

> The goal of a man page author must be convenience of the user.
> The information must be clear, precise, concise, easy to find.
> 
> I don't know how modern distributions usually present these man pages.
> Myself, I read them in the old-fashioned way on an xterm, where no
> hyperlinks are available. In such a setting a single page is clearly
> more convenient, but there will come a point where it is simply too long.
> 
> These filesystem man pages in section 4 do not exist yet, as far as I can see.
> What would the names be? Would splitting things up make it easier for the
> user to find her info?

Some auxilliary filesystems already have section 4, I believe.  The
other option, of course, is to move that data to mount.<filesystem>(8).

	-hpa
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-26 18:17 [RFC] devpts man page update Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <20081126181732.GA1509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-27 11:38   ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]     ` <cfd18e0f0811270338o392daf81kdfd46cec51325891-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-27 19:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-01 18:10       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]         ` <20081201181055.GA12493-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 19:31           ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]             ` <cfd18e0f0812011131g2bbe2d6flb8cc89eaa7f96ad4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 19:42               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <49343E32.50707-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 20:05                   ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]                     ` <cfd18e0f0812011205w62f30725m53f4b16cea3272aa-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 21:08                       ` Andries E. Brouwer
2008-12-01 21:35                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-12-01 22:39                   ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                     ` <20081201223913.GF2956-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 22:41                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                         ` <4934682F.7050305-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 23:00                           ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                             ` <20081201230031.GA26838-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 23:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-01 23:19                               ` H. Peter Anvin

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