From: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext3: ext3_commit_super should always mark super uptodate
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:46:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <494BC1E2.1010901@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494BC0B9.2050007@cfl.rr.com>
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Phillip Susi wrote:
> Jeff Mahoney wrote:
>> After a superblock write failure, the buffer_head is marked !uptodate.
>> Since the superblock is something of an exception -- read once and
>> a reference kept for the duration of the mount -- it is by definition
>> always uptodate.
>
> Not if it has been modified and not yet written back to disk. Then it
> is dirty by definition.
I think you're missing the distinction between uptodate and dirty here.
>> This is somewhat academic for the most part until we encounter error
>> conditions. For example, if a disk goes away in a SAN environment, the
>> write failure will occur and it will be followed by others. ext3_error
>> wants to mark the superblock dirty via ext3_commit_super, but once
>> the first write fails, the subsequent mark_buffer_dirty calls will
>> issue warnings because the buffer is not uptodate.
>
> Why on earth is a warning issued for marking an already dirty buffer
> dirty again? Surly buffers can be modified again and thus, marked as
> dirty a second time before pdflush gets around to syncing them all the
> time.
No, it issues a warning when you mark a !uptodate buffer dirty. The idea
behind it is that the buffer contents may be stale with respect to disk
contents. In the case of the superblock, the in-memory contents are
always the most recent and it *never* re-reads it from disk.
>> + set_buffer_uptodate(sbh);
>> mark_buffer_dirty(sbh);
>> if (sync)
>> sync_dirty_buffer(sbh);
>
> Are you sure this only matters when there is an IO error? It looks
> there like if !sync then the sb can continue to sit in memory marked as
> dirty for some time before someone tries to flush it to disk. Eventually
> can't we end up back through this code patch and calling
> mark_buffer_dirty again before it was ever flushed in the first place,
> even without an IO error?
Again, uptodate != dirty.
- -Jeff
- --
Jeff Mahoney
SUSE Labs
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2008-12-16 18:13 [PATCH] ext3: ext3_commit_super should always mark super uptodate Jeff Mahoney
2008-12-19 15:41 ` Phillip Susi
2008-12-19 15:46 ` Jeff Mahoney [this message]
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