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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	Benjamin Serebrin <benjamin.serebrin@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: kvm vmload/vmsave vs tss.ist
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:46:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4953AAE5.4000708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081225151757.GA25117@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> i think we should actually do #1 unconditionally.
>
> ISTs are bad for the native kernel too. They have various nasty 
> complications in the stack walker (and hence they _reduce_ reliability in 
> practice), and they are non-preemptible as well. Plus we have the 
> maximum-stack-footprint ftrace plugin now, which can remove any perception 
> about how bad the worst-case stack footprint is in practice.
>
> If it ever becomes an issue we could also soft-switch to a larger (per 
> CPU) exception stack from the exception handlers themselves. The 
> architectural stack footprint of the various critical exceptions are 
> calculatable and low - so we could switch away and get almost the kind of 
> separation that ISTs give. There's no deep reason to actually make use of 
> hw switched ISTs.
>
> So feel free to send a patch that just standardizes the critical 
> exceptions to use the regular kernel stack. (I havent actually tried this 
> but it should be relatively simple to implement. Roadblocks are possible.)
>   

Certainly.  There is provision for a debug stack that can be larger than 
the normal exception stack.  This is used for vectors 1 and 3.  If we 
wish to preserve this, we need to to manual stack switching.

Currently DEBUG_STKSZ is 8K, the same as the normal stack (compared to 
4K for the other execption stacks).  Do we need to implement stack 
switching for debug vectors?

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-25 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-25 14:59 kvm vmload/vmsave vs tss.ist Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 15:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-25 15:46   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-12-25 16:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-25 16:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-25 17:40         ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 17:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-25 18:12             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 18:18               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-25 18:19               ` Avi Kivity

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