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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux--ide-momail.e4ward.com-linux--ide-vger.kernel.org-CDD-6w99-4@reply.e4ward.com,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	peter.klotz@aon.at, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use HORKAGE_NOSETXFER
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:04:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49648C41.6030002@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090107105339.289f47a4@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

Alan Cox wrote:
>>> Sorry you can't just blindly do this because some of the controllers snoop
>>> the SETXFER command to set their timings and whether they expect DMA. Also
>>> we've no idea if this is a bug in a specific firmware revision, a quirky
>>> pata/sata bridge or a timing problem of some sort.
>> I think it'll generally be okay for SATA unless it's bridged over to
>> PATA controller.  Any other ideas?
> 
> We seem to have one report, from one user, with one configuration, on one
> controller, using one firmware set.

There are two more reports linked from the thread.

  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986871
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/299865

And all of them are showing the same problem.  This being a slim SATA
drive for a laptop, I don't really expect to see the drive in varied
configurations.  The problem might as well be limited to certain OEM
drive(s).

> That to me isn't meaningful evidence of anything that needs a workaround,
> beyond maybe doing what old IDE does and if a setxfer times out
> continuing in hope.

So, as far as the validity of the report goes, I think it's at
reasonable level.  Add to that my general trigger happiness toward
quirks and the machine is a VAIO and to me quirking it doesn't seem
too careless.

> (We should of course then re-read the identify pages and check the mode
> in use)

Of course, whether the workaround is proper is a completely separate
issue but unless other devices with the same problem creep up and the
device is happy with the quirk, I don't really think we should modify
the default configuration sequence for devices like this.

That said, Moritz, can you please post the output of "hdparm -I" with
and without the quirk applied?  And can you please use a preoper mail
address?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-21 21:18 PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08 is disabled if there is no disc present at boot time linux-ide
2008-12-22  0:22 ` Robert Hancock
2008-12-22 10:02   ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-22 12:13     ` linux-ide
2008-12-23  3:03       ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-24 13:40         ` linux-ide
2008-12-29  8:14           ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-29 21:32             ` linux-ide
2009-01-06 22:51               ` linux-ide
2009-01-07  2:01                 ` [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use HORKAGE_NOSETXFER Tejun Heo
2009-01-07  9:40                   ` Alan Cox
2009-01-07 10:27                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-07 10:53                       ` Alan Cox
2009-01-07 11:04                         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-05-25  3:10                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-25  8:11                             ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08  8:00                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 10:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 11:16                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 12:21                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 23:07                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 14:53                                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-07-08 15:06                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-12-29 22:11             ` PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08 is disabled if there is no disc present at boot time Peter Klotz
2008-12-22 11:57   ` linux-ide
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-07 14:15 [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use HORKAGE_NOSETXFER Moritz Rigler
2009-01-07 14:23 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09  0:11   ` Robert Hancock
2009-01-15  5:48   ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-15  9:45     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-15 10:06       ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-15 13:48         ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-07 14:18 Moritz Rigler

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