From: Uri Lublin <uril@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] info blockstats (block-qcow2): show highest allocated offset (bytes)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:26:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4969BB61.9070803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4966560B.30504@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Uri Lublin wrote:
>> From: Uri Lublin <uril@redhat.com>
>>
>> This patchset let the user know the highest allocated byte of qcow2
>> images.
>> Actually it's the first unallocated byte after the highest byte written,
>> cluster-size aligned.
>>
>> The highest allocated byte gives a maximal limit (easy to calculate)
>> to the number of bytes allocated for that image, and may hint how many
>> more allocations can be done before we reach end-of-file (end of host
>> block device).
>> Although there may be many free blocks below that number (allocated
>> and freed)
>> the file system can not deallocate those blocks, and they have to be
>> reused
>> by qemu. Also note that due to fragmentation those free blocks may not
>> be used on next allocations.
>>
>> It can be useful for truncation of backing file images (ftruncate).
>> Also it may be useful for defragmentation later (although we'll need
>> the number of free blocks as well).
>
> I'm having trouble seeing the utility of this as it seems to be not
> really reliable. Surely, after a lot of work, you'll have one block far
> at the end of the file, no? I don't see how knowing this location helps
> practically speaking. Can you explain a little more about what you want
> to use this functionality for?
>
Currently, qcow2 images can only grow, never shrink.
The main usage would be to trigger an appropriate operation when a threshold is
reached. The threshold and operation are defined by a management application.
Basically we can do one of the following:
1. Defragment the qcow2 image (simplest way is to qemu-img convert it, the best
is to do it online if possible).
2. Allocate more space (especially when using LVM)
I plan on adding another "blockstat" that shows the number of free
bytes/blocks/clusters for a qcow2 image. This would make it easier to choose the
appropriate operation above.
Thanks,
Uri.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-11 9:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-08 18:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] info blockstats (block-qcow2): show highest allocated offset (bytes) Uri Lublin
2009-01-08 19:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-11 9:26 ` Uri Lublin [this message]
2009-01-11 15:16 ` Shahar Frank
2009-01-09 9:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-01-11 9:31 ` Uri Lublin
2009-01-11 14:56 ` Shahar Frank
2009-01-12 9:50 ` Kevin Wolf
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