From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:00:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <496BCB7A.2010804@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090112162938.GA22647@ioremap.net>
Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 04:19:31PM +0000, Alan Cox (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote:
>>> Yes, it could be done. If inotify will not be killed itself, will be
>>> enabled in the config and daemon will be started.
>>> But right now there is no way to solve that task, in the long term this
>>> is a good idea to implement modulo security problems it may concern.
>> It is perfectly soluble right now, use the existing /proc interface. If
>> you want to specifically victimise new tasks first then set everything
>> else with an adjust *against* being killed and new stuff will start off
>> as cannon fodder until classified.
>>
>> The name approach is the wrong way to handle this. It has no reflection
>> of heirarchy of process, targetting by users, containers etc..
>>
>> In fact containers are probably the right way to do it
>
> Containers to solve oom-killer selection problem? :)
>
> Being more serious, I agree that having a simple name does not solve the
> problem if observed from any angle, but it is not the main goal.
> Patch solves oom-killer selection issue from likely the most commonly
> used case: when you know who should be checked and killed first when
> problem appears.
>
The only cases in which this would really be useful is when running some
software which once in a great while goes super prompt critical and starts
throwing processes of a known name format in all directions, or when you have a
problem and know the process names involved before OOM kills everything in sight.
This does have a strange attraction, I did save the patch in case another "every
few years" problem comes up.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-12 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-12 15:33 Linux killed Kenny, bastard! Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:44 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 15:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:51 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 21:29 ` Chris Snook
2009-01-12 21:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:52 ` [why oom_adj does not work] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 14:06 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 15:00 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-13 15:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 18:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 19:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 16:12 ` OOM documentation update [was: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!] Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 17:06 ` [take2] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 21:34 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-14 21:53 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-01-14 22:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 22:14 ` [take3] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 0:58 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-15 8:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 8:57 ` [take4] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 11:13 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-12 15:49 ` Linux killed Kenny, bastard! Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:52 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 16:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 23:00 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2009-01-12 23:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 1:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 8:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 9:54 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 11:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 12:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 12:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:19 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 13:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 0:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-01-14 0:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:47 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 19:36 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 22:49 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 23:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14 1:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 4:06 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 23:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 23:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 23:43 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 23:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 0:32 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-14 0:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 4:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-14 9:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 19:15 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 23:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 23:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:41 ` Jan-Frode Myklebust
2009-01-13 13:59 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 16:22 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 16:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 16:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-13 22:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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2009-01-13 10:58 Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-01-13 12:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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2009-01-17 15:21 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-17 15:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 12:49 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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