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From: Alain Knaff <alain@knaff.lu>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: The policy on initramfs decompression failure
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:23:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <496DA0FF.2060206@knaff.lu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090114074852.GB16274@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Alain Knaff <alain@knaff.lu> wrote:
> 
>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> And your argument makes little sense: if there is something wrong then one 
>>> looks at the logs _anyway_.
>> Unfortunately, not everybody has the knowledge or equipment ready to set
>> up a serial console... [...]
> 
> By your argument the ton of warnings we emit in various situations are 
> wrong too and all should be panic()s.

That is not my argument. I never said something like that.

I don't know, but I have to wonder about the strength of _your_ position if
the only way to defend it is to put words into other people's mouth.

> That argument is bogus.

Indeed that argument is bogus. However, I'm not sure where it is coming from...

> Not looking at the logs makes boot problem analysis harder of course. Nor 
> is your argument actually true: you can use printk_delay or any other 
> method.

This is interesting information. Where can I find documentation about this?
Neither google, nor a find-grep in the kernel sources turned up anything
useful...

> Or you can use the VGA console and use shift-pageup ...

No you can't. Try it. Or is this only a kvm artifact?

> 
> 	Ingo

Alain

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-13 22:38 The policy on initramfs decompression failure H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-13 23:17 ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-14  5:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14  7:02     ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-14  7:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14  8:23         ` Alain Knaff [this message]
2009-01-14 10:37           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 17:42         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-14  1:18 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14  6:51   ` Alain Knaff
     [not found] <bU0fj-7Ap-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-01-13 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-14  5:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14  6:47     ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-14  7:45       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 15:19     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <bU0If-8vA-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <bU6NE-1bi-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <bU837-3lq-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <bU8FR-4by-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <bU9iw-5gV-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <bUbkj-8un-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-01-14 18:35             ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]         ` <bUi2r-2kd-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-01-18 12:55           ` Bodo Eggert

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