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From: Nathaniel Rutman <Nathan.Rutman@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] SAM-QFS, ADM, and Lustre HSM
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:53:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <497E30D7.3020208@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090126194744.GG3652@webber.adilger.int>

Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2009  10:46 -0600, Harriet G. Coverston wrote:
>   
>> SAM supports classification policy rules for files  -- (1) number of  
>> copies, up to 4 (2) where to put the copies  on which vsn pools  -  
>> disk and/or tape, local and/or remote) (3) when to make the copies  
>> (time based archiving). You specify the policy in the archiver.cmd  
>> file. You can group files for a policy rule by pathname, owner, group,  
>> size, wildcard, and access time.
>>     
My point about this is that files will be stored using the FID as the 
file name, so name-based policies at the copytool level are worthless.   
Unless we a.) add the path/filename back to the file (EA?), and b.) 
modify the SAM policy engine to use the "real" path/filename instead of 
the FID.
>> This brings up the question of restore. In case of a Lustre disk  
>> failure, how are you going to restore your Lustre file system?
>>     
>
> ...
>   
> - since the archive does not contain a copy of the namespace (it only
>   has 128-bit FIDs as identifiers for the file) we would need to make
>   a separate backup of the MDS filesystem (which is all namespace).
>   There are already several mechanisms to do this, either using the
>   ext2 "dump" program to read from the raw device, or to make an LVM
>   snapshot and use e.g. tar to make a filesystem-level backup.  Both
>   of these need to include a backup of the extended attributes.
>   
Or include the path/filename in each file, and the restore process uses 
this to repopulate the filesystem.
>   
>> Agree. I don't see any SAM-QFS code changes required. The Lustre  
>> copytool will write to HPSS using the HPSS APIs and write to SAM-QFS  
>> with a ftp or pftp interface. This is minimum changes.
>>     
>
> We weren't thinking of using an FTP interface to SAM, though I guess
> this is possible.  Rather we were thinking of just mounting both QFS
> and Lustre on a Linux client and using "cp" or equivalent tool.
>   
Harriet already knew this, she just forgot :)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-26 21:53 UTC|newest]

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2009-01-22 20:46                           ` [Lustre-devel] SAM-QFS, ADM, and Lustre HSM Nathaniel Rutman
2009-01-22 22:55                             ` Andreas Dilger
2009-01-23 17:39                               ` Shipman, Galen M.
2009-01-26 19:57                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-01-29 15:36                                   ` Vicky White
2009-01-23 16:46                             ` Harriet G. Coverston
2009-01-26 19:47                               ` Andreas Dilger
2009-01-26 21:53                                 ` Nathaniel Rutman [this message]
2009-01-27  0:12                                 ` Harriet G. Coverston
2009-01-27  8:22                                 ` LEIBOVICI Thomas
2009-01-28 20:30                               ` Vicky White
2009-01-29 15:35                                 ` Vicky White
2009-01-30 14:26                                 ` Vicky White
2009-01-23 19:02                             ` Rick Matthews
2009-01-26 19:35                               ` Andreas Dilger
2009-01-26 22:13                                 ` Nathaniel Rutman
2009-01-27  2:26                                   ` Harriet G. Coverston
2009-01-31  0:21                                     ` Nathaniel Rutman
2009-02-02  4:00                                       ` Harriet G. Coverston
2009-02-02 14:56                                         ` Colin Ngam
2009-02-02 15:07                                           ` Harriet G. Coverston
2009-02-02 17:25                                             ` [Lustre-devel] Lustre HSM - some talking points Colin Ngam
2009-02-02 17:46                                               ` Vicky White
2009-02-02 18:00                                               ` Vicky White
2009-02-02 19:25                                                 ` Colin Ngam
2009-02-02 19:54                                                   ` Vicky White
2009-02-02 20:42                                                     ` Colin Ngam
2009-02-02 21:02                                                       ` Vicky White
2009-02-04  0:41                                               ` Nathaniel Rutman
2009-02-04  1:29                                                 ` Colin Ngam
2009-02-10  0:48                                                   ` Nathaniel Rutman

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