From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mummy.ncsc.mil (mummy.ncsc.mil [144.51.88.129]) by tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0RJiWBZ031578 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:44:32 -0500 Received: from g4t0015.houston.hp.com (jazzhorn.ncsc.mil [144.51.5.9]) by mummy.ncsc.mil (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n0RJiUws011002 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:44:30 GMT Message-ID: <497F641E.9050500@hp.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:44:30 -0500 From: "Sutton, Harry (MSE)" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Kramer CC: "selinux@tycho.nsa.gov" Subject: Re: O'Rielly SELinux Book (2005) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020409070606030203070208" Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020409070606030203070208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Josh, I found that to be one of the (few) O'Reilly books that didn't really cut it for me on its stated subject matter; my preference is Prentice-Hall's "SELinux by Example, Using Security Enhanced Linux", by Frank Mayer, Karl MacMillan and David Caplan (ISBN 0-13-196369-4). It's a much clearer (and more comprehensive) treatment of the theory in depth you're asking for. Best regards, /Harry Sutton, RHCA / RHCSS Hewlett-Packard Company Joshua Kramer wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > I have a copy of the O'Rielly SELinux book from 2005. > > Many things have changed as far as the implementation and practice. > However, is this still a good book to read if I just want to learn the > theory in-depth? Or have basic elements of SELinux changed since then? > > Thanks! > -Josh > > --------------ms020409070606030203070208 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIITQzCC BCUwggOOoAMCAQICEHeUt6HYr1NI3RtEezvCaYMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgcExCzAJBgNV BAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjE8MDoGA1UECxMzQ2xhc3MgMiBQdWJs aWMgUHJpbWFyeSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eSAtIEcyMTowOAYDVQQLEzEoYykg MTk5OCBWZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLiAtIEZvciBhdXRob3JpemVkIHVzZSBvbmx5MR8wHQYDVQQL ExZWZXJpU2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMB4XDTAxMDQyNDAwMDAwMFoXDTExMDQyMzIzNTk1 OVowgeIxIDAeBgNVBAoTF0hld2xldHQtUGFja2FyZCBDb21wYW55MR8wHQYDVQQLExZWZXJp U2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMTswOQYDVQQLEzJUZXJtcyBvZiB1c2UgYXQgaHR0cHM6Ly93 d3cudmVyaXNpZ24uY29tL3JwYSAoYykwMTEwMC4GA1UECxMnQ2xhc3MgMiBPblNpdGUgSW5k 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