From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [216.168.135.169] (helo=starfish.geekisp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LZsjd-0000mU-Po for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:09:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 14059 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Feb 2009 20:07:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (philip@opensdr.com@127.0.0.1) by mail.geekisp.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2009 20:07:20 -0000 Message-ID: <499C6A77.7070006@balister.org> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:07:19 -0500 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <20090217163526.GF11815@smtp.west.cox.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [RFC] removing DISTRO_* vars from task-boot X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:10:17 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 7823 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050101000303040508090301" --------------ms050101000303040508090301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Koen Kooi wrote: > On 17-02-09 17:35, Tom Rini wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:26:34PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Lately I have been wondering how to change the /dev manager on a per >>> image base, since I want udev for most images and busybox-mdev for >>> special-purpose stuff. The catch is that I want to keep using task-boot >>> for both. >>> >>> Currently we have: >>> >>> DISTRO_DEV_MANAGER ?= "${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", "kernel26", >>> "udev","",d)}" >>> DISTRO_INIT_MANAGER ?= "sysvinit sysvinit-pidof" >>> DISTRO_INITSCRIPTS ?= "initscripts" >>> DISTRO_LOGIN_MANAGER ?= "tinylogin" >>> >>> in task-boot.bb >>> >>> There are various ways we could attack this: >>> >>> 1) The image.bbclass way: >>> >>> Put the following in image.bbclass: >>> >>> IMAGE_DEV_MANAGER ?= "${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", >>> "kernel26", >>> "udev","",d)}" >>> IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER ?= "sysvinit sysvinit-pidof" >>> IMAGE_INITSCRIPTS ?= "initscripts" >>> IMAGE_LOGIN_MANAGER ?= "tinylogin" >>> >>> Pros: >>> * Takes immediate effect >>> * Can have distro defaults, overridable per image >>> >>> Cons: >>> * marks them as 'user installed' >>> * you can't 'debootstrap' from tasks anymore, you need to encode >>> knowledge about the above vars into the debootstrap script >> >> I really like this one as for our uses there's times where I'd rather >> let busybox handle INIT_MANAGER and LOGIN_MANAGER too. > > Philip C. agrees with you. Should be move everything over or start with > IMAGE_DEV_MANAGER? I should mention my specific issues with solutions and my disclaimer: 2) I do not like QA hell. 3) not scaling is bad. 4) building images that do not boot is bad. I do not know much about all this, so do not listen to me. And I am interested in trying mdev. 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