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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kyle-hoO6YkzgTuCM0SS3m2neIg@public.gmane.org,
	"David C. Hansen"
	<haveblue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	bastian-yyjItF7Rl6lg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org,
	xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Multiple devpts instances
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:22:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <499E3018.3070108@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vdr6xdqv.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> Really.  You have the same classes of issues with ANY allocatable
>> resource in the system.  Period.  Furthermore, there are quite a few
>> applications which want one and not the other.  Trying to entangle
>> them is broken.
> 
> Peter they are entangled issues because the limits frequently show up
> in the naming.  pids are a good example of that.
> 

No.  The *reason* for these limits are a matter of resource control, and
that has to at least have the ability to be global.

Entangling them because it peers through somewhat in the naming is
nonsense, at least in this case.

Containers may very well want resource control, but it's a separate
issue from naming.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-20  4:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-15  5:30 [PATCH 0/9] Multiple devpts instances sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found] ` <20081015053000.GA2039-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15  5:33   ` [PATCH 1/9] Remove devpts_root global sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:33   ` [PATCH 2/9] Per-mount allocated_ptys sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:34   ` [PATCH 3/9] Per-mount 'config' object sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:35   ` [PATCH 4/9] Extract option parsing to new function sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:35   ` [PATCH 5/9] Add DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES config token sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:36   ` [PATCH 6/9] Define mknod_ptmx() sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:37   ` [PATCH 7/9] Define get_init_pts_sb() sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:37   ` [PATCH 8/9] Enable multiple instances of devpts sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
2008-10-15  5:38   ` [PATCH 9/9] Document usage of multiple-instances " sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found]     ` <20081015053800.GI2215-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15 18:57       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20081015185722.GA30005-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15 19:03           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <48F63E76.3030907-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15 19:48               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-16 15:19   ` [PATCH 0/9] Multiple devpts instances Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-19 15:43   ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]     ` <499D7E13.10601-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-19 17:32       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <499D97B1.1090902-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-19 18:09           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <499DA069.3040603-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-19 19:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <499DB9DA.2070301-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-19 22:28                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1vdr6xdqv.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-20  4:22                       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-02-19 22:42                   ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                     ` <499DE06E.4030108-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-19 22:46                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19 23:59                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <m1eixuvv00.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-23 20:56                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <20090223205609.GA32351-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-23 21:18                               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                 ` <49A31299.8040501-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-23 22:27                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-24  4:09                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-23 21:19                               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                 ` <49A312E6.9090900-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-23 21:23                                   ` H. Peter Anvin

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