From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1LazNY-0002qq-50 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:27:20 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LazNX-0002qa-2k for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:27:19 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LazNV-0002p4-27 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:27:18 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41437 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LazNU-0002ow-Tw for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:27:16 -0500 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:63819) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LazNU-0005wF-Gx for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:27:16 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so1709678fgb.30 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AHg0uqMUwnyVLdwfqu0Hcp+xvQoFWNpufeAlbcwNLNA=; b=svwYb1NyAbi66DlMyvhHvBP8slVddhC+sY7yj/ARxnUm5DjM0tG/fAkdHbBXW4K7vT ZJTech9NLS37Q1U+h09yoQUqj3BqtCkHbYVDoQQ0YcEQu48cHiTefd5FvFjFhLT8X+cm kSS5M3HarUZ4Sk/M77m9xEhPQtBsX+yMXw+ME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aCgGEkOy5ixqSPqVbKJC/0YWQx3tM/bTazD9FEMMxxSmmdl1LUEnP+5eWro2mrpPJL iDSvYVRnpTcHWGJm0pCTUnYggYMue+NMY5YB3RKBW+oFA5cfKuWSqdiaQDBE07Xgdx6w kq3vbnNot4l2mM772XSF/QZTrwZs6DT0eiSmc= Received: by 10.86.94.11 with SMTP id r11mr1921003fgb.11.1235251634959; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.25? (166-90.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch [81.62.90.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm3070327fge.52.2009.02.21.13.27.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:27:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49A071B1.2070804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:27:13 +0100 From: phcoder User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <200902211729.52450.michael@gorven.za.net> <20090221203136.GF18492@thorin> <200902212243.31194.michael@gorven.za.net> <20090221210439.GJ18492@thorin> <49A06F4E.1000802@student.ethz.ch> In-Reply-To: <49A06F4E.1000802@student.ethz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: A _good_ and valid use for TPM X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:27:19 -0000 > > As I said before: you can make the very same argument for every single part of > your PC. > Why do you trust Intel or AMD with your CPU? They are also involved in the TCG! We can't verify that it doesn't do such things. Unfortunately we also don't have resources to build alternative chips. However it doesn't mean we should support any anti-freedom devices