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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] x86: make text_poke() atomic
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:31:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49AC7A5F.7080009@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090303002214.GA4147@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> * Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>>>>> So perhaps another approach to (re-)consider would be to go back 
>>>>>>> to atomic fixmaps here. It spends 3 slots but that's no big 
>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>> Oh, it's a good idea! fixmaps must make it simpler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In exchange it will be conceptually simpler, and will also scale 
>>>>>>> much better than a global spinlock. What do you think?
>>>>>> I think even if I use fixmaps, we have to use a spinlock to protect
>>>>>> the fixmap area from other threads...
>>>>> that's why i suggested to use an atomic-kmap, not a fixmap.
>>>> Even if the mapping is atomic, text_poke() has to protect pte
>>>> from other text_poke()s while changing code.
>>>> AFAIK, atomic-kmap itself doesn't ensure that, does it?
>>> Well, but text_poke() is not a serializing API to begin with. 
>>> It's normally used in code patching sequences when we 'know' 
>>> that there cannot be similar parallel activities. The kprobes 
>>> usage of text_poke() looks unsafe - and that needs to be fixed.
>> Oh, kprobes already prohibited parallel arming/disarming
>> by using kprobe_mutex. :-)
> 
> yeah, but still the API is somewhat unsafe.

Yeah, kprobe_mutex protects text_poke from other kprobes, but
not from other text_poke() users...

> In any case, you also answered your own question:
> 
>>>> Even if the mapping is atomic, text_poke() has to protect pte
>>>> from other text_poke()s while changing code.
>>>> AFAIK, atomic-kmap itself doesn't ensure that, does it?
> 
> kprobe_mutex does that.

Anyway, text_edit_lock ensures that.

By the way, I think set_fixmap/clear_fixmap seems simpler than
kmap_atomic() variant. Would you think improving kmap_atomic_prot()
is better?

> 
> 	Ingo
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Masami Hiramatsu

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-03  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20  1:13 [git pull] changes for tip, and a nasty x86 page table bug Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86: check PMD in spurious_fault handler Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86: keep pmd rw bit set when creating 4K level pages Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 3/6] ftrace: allow archs to preform pre and post process for code modification Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 4/6] ftrace, x86: make kernel text writable only for conversions Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:32   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-20  1:44     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  2:05       ` [PATCH][git pull] update to tip/tracing/ftrace Steven Rostedt
2009-02-22 17:50   ` [PATCH 4/6] ftrace, x86: make kernel text writable only for conversions Andi Kleen
2009-02-22 22:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23  0:29       ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-23  2:33       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23  4:29         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23  4:53           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23 14:48             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 15:42               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23 15:51                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 15:55                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 16:13                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23 16:48                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 17:31                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23 18:17                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 18:34                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-27 17:52                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-02-27 18:07                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-27 18:34                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-02-27 18:53                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-27 20:57                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 17:01                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] x86: make text_poke() atomic Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 17:19                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-02 22:15                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 22:22                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 22:55                                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 23:09                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 23:38                                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 23:49                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:00                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  0:00                                                     ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  0:32                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:39                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  1:30                                                         ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - Architecture Independent Code (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  1:31                                                         ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - kprobes architecture independent support (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  9:27                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 12:06                                                             ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-03-03 14:28                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03 14:33                                                               ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - kprobes architecture independent support (v3) Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03 14:53                                                               ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - kprobes architecture independent support (v2) Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:01                                                     ` [PATCH] Text Edit Lock - kprobes architecture independent support Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-03  0:10                                                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-03  0:05                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] x86: make text_poke() atomic Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-03  0:22                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:31                                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2009-03-03 16:31                                                           ` [PATCH] x86: make text_poke() atomic using fixmap Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-03 17:08                                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-05 10:38                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 14:06                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 14:49                                                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 18:28                                       ` [RFC][PATCH] x86: make text_poke() atomic Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-02 18:36                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-02 18:55                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-02 19:13                                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-03-02 19:23                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02 19:47                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-02 18:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-03  4:54                                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 18:23                         ` [PATCH 4/6] ftrace, x86: make kernel text writable only for conversions Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23  9:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 21:08     ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-28 16:56       ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-28 22:08         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <87wsba1a9f.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
2009-02-28 22:19             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-28 23:52               ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 5/6] ftrace: immediately stop code modification if failure is detected Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  1:13 ` [PATCH 6/6] ftrace: break out modify loop immediately on detection of error Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  2:00 ` [git pull] changes for tip, and a nasty x86 page table bug Linus Torvalds
2009-02-20  2:08   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  3:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-20  4:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  4:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-20  4:34           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20  5:02           ` Huang Ying
2009-02-20  7:29       ` [PATCH] x86: use the right protections for split-up pagetables Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  7:39         ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  8:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 10:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 13:57         ` [PATCH] " Steven Rostedt
2009-02-20 15:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-20 16:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:33           ` H. Peter Anvin

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