From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [64.18.0.186] (helo=exprod5og108.obsmtp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lenwt-0004mB-8H for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:03:49 +0100 Received: from source ([12.71.149.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob108.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSa5Q+wViVPZ/J87i7YSJsNoDYbRY/+kq@postini.com; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:59:25 PST Received: from unknown (HELO cinmlip01.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.213.48]) by Cinmlip05.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 04:59:20 -0500 Received: from ind-3n4b83jh1.amer.consind.ge.com (HELO [192.168.219.128]) ([3.138.54.81]) by cinmlip01.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 04:59:20 -0500 Message-ID: <49AE5117.5020806@gefanuc.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:59:51 +0000 From: Martyn Welch Organization: GE Fanuc Intelligent Platforms Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org References: <20090303204954.CCB9CE8008@amethyst.openembedded.net> <1236119119.10602.62.camel@andromeda> <49ADB183.5070709@balister.org> <1236120999.10602.70.camel@andromeda> In-Reply-To: <1236120999.10602.70.camel@andromeda> Subject: Re: [oe-commits] Koen Kooi : angstrom 2009.X: bump automake-native to 1.10. 2 since some idiot deleted 1.10 X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:04:27 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:04:27 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 03.03.2009, 17:38 -0500 schrieb Philip Balister: >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >>> Am Dienstag, den 03.03.2009, 21:49 +0100 schrieb GIT User account: >>>> Module: openembedded.git >>>> Branch: org.openembedded.dev >>>> Commit: eee859a9c348871d6d644ece76bc57b151cc80e8 >>>> URL: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git&a=commit;h=eee859a9c348871d6d644ece76bc57b151cc80e8 >>>> >>>> Author: Koen Kooi >>>> Date: Tue Mar 3 21:47:57 2009 +0100 >>>> >>>> angstrom 2009.X: bump automake-native to 1.10.2 since some idiot deleted 1.10 >>> Ah, are we in that mood again? Take more pills. >> We need to have a serious discussion about deleting recipes. I know the >> deletion of python 2.5 will force me to address the 2.5->2.6 upgrade in >> gnuradio before the upstream developers are ready. >> >> We need a way to remove recipes, but doing it as part of adding a new >> recipe is causing problems for OE users. > > Yes, we need to have a serious discussion about lots of things > surrounding the OpenEmbedded project, before the popularity kills the > project. Judging from the amount of interest though, I don't see that > happening -- neither short term nor long term. > Ok, so if a serious discussion is out of the question, lets just have a normal discussion. I see this issue to be partially related to the on going discussions regarding submissions. I assume that the "Commit_Policy"[1] on the wiki is either unofficial, out-of-date or optional as it states: * Changes to core toolchain components need review (gcc, binutils, libtool, pkgconfig, automake, autoconf etc.) Where: "Review" is defined as posting it on the mailing lists and getting positive agreement from two or more core developers. Now a quick check of my OpenEmbedded mail folder doesn't chuck up any messages with automake in the title that have a patch with this commit. Maybe I'm looking on the wrong mailing list. Given that the commit policy does seem to be quite a sensible suggestion (it's part of the mechanism that seems to work quit well for the Linux kernel), maybe it needs a little bit of work to qualify it a little (which mailing list for example) and get some more links to it (for example there is no mention of a commit policy in the "adding packages"[2] section of the "Getting started guide". If nobody objects, I will happily add the link. Martyn [1] http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Commit_Policy [2] http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started#Adding_Packages -- Martyn Welch MEng MPhil MIET (Principal Software Engineer) T:+44(0)1327322748 GE Fanuc Intelligent Platforms Ltd, |Registered in England and Wales Tove Valley Business Park, Towcester, |(3828642) at 100 Barbirolli Square, Northants, NN12 6PF, UK T:+44(0)1327359444 |Manchester,M2 3AB VAT:GB 729849476