All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Eric Noulard <eric.noulard@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org, "M. Koehrer" <mathias_koehrer@domain.hid>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Xenomai and OpenMP
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:41:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49B1522F.4060202@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbe23c50903060826i7f8b4a41s9aed051eea249c28@domain.hid>

Eric Noulard wrote:
> 2009/3/6 Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>:
>> M. Koehrer wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> is it possible to use OpenMP with Xenomai Realtime threads? I have a
>>> Intel QuadCore CPU running. Currently I use the native skin to create
>>> multiple threads to run on multiple CPU cores. That works perfectly.
>>> However for some computations, a more local parallel computation
>>> could be great. And OpenMP provides exactly the right thing here. My
>>> question is now: Is it possible to use OpenMP with Xenomai real time
>>> tasks? How can I define the worker threads of OpenMP to be real time
>>> threads? What about the priority of these threads?
>> I do not know what OpenMP is,
> 
> OpenMP is a proposed standard for shared-memory parallel programming:
> http://openmp.org.
> 
> The idea is to indicate to the OpenMP-aware compiler which part
> of your code may be parallelized with #pragma omp <something>
> those pragma should be ignored by non OpenMP-aware compiler
> making the parallelized code more portable.
> 
> GCC 4.2 and up support OpenMP pragma if you use the
> -fopenmp
> command line switch.
> 
>> but if it uses the posix API, the first
>> step to make it work with Xenomai is to try and compile it with xenomai
>> posix skin. Then, all threads created by this openmp compiled for
>> xenomai posix skin will be real-time threads, and the priority of these
>> threads will be the one chosen by the pthread_att_setschedparam or
>> pthread_setschedparam services.
> 
> The OpenMP parallel model concerning threads is a so-called
> fork/join model. The compiler insert the code that
> creates the threads (and eventually join them)
> at appropriate places for you.
> The work is then distributed to those "worker" threads.
> The code use to handle those mechanism is NOT under user control,
> user only insert OpenMP pragmas.
> 
> In GCC there is a supporting library "libgomp" used:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs/trunk/libgomp/
> 
> the lib seems to be using pthread, but this as to be checked carefully.
> Thus I would bet that somewhere in libgomp you'll find the pthread_xxxx
> calls corresponding to the OpenMP handled threads.
> 
> I think in order to make the OpenMP thread Xenomai one's you'll have
> to find WHERE (in the libgomp code) they are created and may
> WHEN they are launched, in order to be sure the libgomp created
> threand will be Xenomai tasks.
> 
> The solution used by other compiler to support OpenMP may be different,
> so the Xenomai+OpenMP support may be different  for other compiler.

if the libgomp uses posix, recompiling it for xenomai posix skin should
be enough.

-- 
                                                 Gilles.


      reply	other threads:[~2009-03-06 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-06 15:27 [Xenomai-help] Xenomai and OpenMP M. Koehrer
2009-03-06 15:34 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-03-06 16:26   ` Eric Noulard
2009-03-06 16:41     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=49B1522F.4060202@domain.hid \
    --to=gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org \
    --cc=eric.noulard@domain.hid \
    --cc=mathias_koehrer@domain.hid \
    --cc=xenomai@xenomai.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.