From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai-core <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] Watchdog / immediate Linux signal delivery
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:02:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49B54B88.8030008@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49B54780.6040504@domain.hid>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Philippe Gerum wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> the watchdog strikes. The second one brought me to another issue: Raise
>>> SIGKILL for the current thread and make sure that it can be processed by
>>> Linux (e.g. via xnpod_suspend_thread(<cpu-hog>). Unfortunately, there is
>>> no way to force a shadow thread into secondary mode to handle pending
>>> Linux signals unless that thread issues a syscall once in a while. And
>>> that raises the question if we shouldn't improve this as well while we
>>> are on it.
>>>
>>> Granted, non-broken Xenomai user space threads always issue frequent
>>> syscalls, otherwise the system would starve (and the watchdog would come
>>> around). On the other hand, delaying signals till syscall prologues is
>>> different from plain Linux behaviour...
>>>
>>> Comments, ideas?
>>>
>> We probably need a two-stage approach: first record the thread was bumped out
>> and suspend it from the watchdog handler to give Linux a chance to run again,
>> then finish the work, killing it for good, next time the root thread is
>> scheduled in on the same CPU.
>
> That confuses me again: The watchdog issue is solved now, no? We are
> only left with the scenario of breaking out of a user space loop of some
> Xenomai thread via a Linux signal (which implies SMP - otherwise there
> is no chance to raise the signal...).
>
> Meanwhile I played with some light-weight approach to relax a thread
> that received a signal (according to do_sigwake_event). Worked, but only
> once due to a limitation (if not bug) of I-pipe x86: in __ipipe_run_isr,
> it does not handle the case that a non-root handler may alter the
> current domain, causing corruptions to the IPIPE_SYNC_FLAG states of the
> involved domains. Will try to fix this and post my signaling proposal so
> that this work is not lost.
If we go that way, I would vote for a SIGSEGV instead of the SIGKILL.
This would allow to install a handler to dump the backtrace, or even gdb
to be stopped at the point of the infinite loop, and a SIGSEGV handler
is not expected to recover (well, except in cases of implementation of
COW in user-space, but that does not fit well with real-time threads).
--
Gilles.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-09 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-08 10:42 [Xenomai-core] Watchdog / immediate Linux signal delivery Jan Kiszka
2009-03-08 13:41 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-03-08 14:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-08 14:43 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-03-08 14:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-09 15:50 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 16:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-09 17:02 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2009-03-09 17:15 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-09 17:27 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 17:09 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 17:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-09 17:37 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 23:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-10 9:20 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 17:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-09 17:38 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-03-09 17:58 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-03-10 11:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-03-10 13:17 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-03-09 23:46 ` Jan Kiszka
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