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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] c/r: Add UTS support
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:53:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BA9D9C.2030208@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090313171556.GB10685-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Daniel Lezcano (daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org):
>   
>> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>     
>>> Quoting Daniel Lezcano (daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org):
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Dan Smith wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> DL> I guess it will be esay to implement with a nsproxy level counter.
>>>>> DL> Each time you unshare, the new nsproxy count is incremented.
>>>>> DL> Assuming the init_nsproxy is level 0, when the nsproxy counter is
>>>>> DL> > 1, the process is uncheckpointable.
>>>>>
>>>>> This should also be possible by just making sure that the nsproxy of
>>>>> the root process being checkpointed is the same as any of the
>>>>> children, correct?  That way we avoid having to modify the core
>>>>> nsproxy bits and can still reject any nested namespaces.
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Right, this is another option. The nsproxy counter will allow to flag 
>>>> at runtime a process to be uncheckpointable. The nsproxy comparison 
>>>> will detect nested nsproxies at checkpoint time.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Or, to stick more to the resource->may_checkpoint way of doing it, you
>>> setbit(&nsproxy->uts_ns->may_checkpoint, 0) when the uts_ns is
>>> created, and anytime a task does clone(CLONE_NEWUTS) or
>>> unshare(CLONE_NEWUTS), you clear the bit on the parent uts_ns.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Hmm, you will need to add a back pointer for the nsproxy | utsns parent,  
>> no ?
>>     
>
> Why?
>   
Never mind, I talked too fast :) we have both parent and child namespace 
in the clone and unshare functions.
>> What I was proposing is a counter directly in the nsproxy. Maybe instead  
>> of initializing it to zero, it can be initialized to the max supported  
>> nested level ( only one right now) and decrement each time a clone or a  
>> unshare is done whatever the namespace.
>>
>> init nsproxy->may_checkpoint = 2
>> First clone | unshare => for the new nsproxy the counter may_checkpoint  
>> becomes 1
>>     
>
> I don't understand why it gets decremented twice before not being
> checkpointable - or do you mean that by the time the nsproxy is
> useful it will be 1?   2 is basically an init-only unused phase?
>   
The counter is initialized on the system to 2, which is (max level + 1), 
it is for the init namespaces.

>> Second clone | unshare (forbidden) => may_checkpoint becomes 0
>>     
>
> Ok but if I
>
> 	unshare(CLONE_NEWNS)
>
> I'll get a new nsproxy with an old uts_ns.  So we'll need
> some (potentially complicated) logic at nsproxy creation to
> decide whether the namespaces being cloned or not being cloned
> impact the checkpointability of the new nsproxy...
>
> Hmm.  I think I prefer making sure that the uts_ns is the
> same for all checkpointed tasks :)
>   
Yes, this is an alternative. Maybe, I will say something stupid but IMO 
the "maycheckpoint" will depends on what you assume you have for the CR:
    1) the container is instantiated in one step, that is 
clone(mycloneflags) and that's all, any other clone/unshare is 
forbidden. In this case, you can concentrate the code in the nsproxy 
structure.
    2) the container can be instantiated in several steps, that is 
several clone/unshare but with different namespaces. In this case, you 
have to take care of all the namespaces and do a "maycheckpoint" for 
each of them.

IMHO, both solutions are valid. Of course, we are talking about short 
term solution :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-13 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-12 17:56 [PATCH] [RFC] c/r: Add UTS support Dan Smith
     [not found] ` <1236880612-15316-1-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 21:29   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-12 21:56     ` Dan Smith
     [not found]       ` <87fxhipfrh.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 22:48         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20090312224820.GA12723-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 22:56             ` Dan Smith
     [not found]               ` <87bps6pcyf.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13  0:12                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-18  8:27                 ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                   ` <49C0B069.6060300-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18  9:01                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-18 13:49                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                       ` <20090318134932.GC22636-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 14:04                         ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                           ` <878wn353mf.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 15:46                             ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                               ` <49C1175F.9060600-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 15:55                                 ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                                   ` <874oxq6d1x.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 16:02                                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-18 19:50                                 ` Mike Waychison
     [not found]                                   ` <49C1506C.1080500-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  0:10                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                       ` <m1bprye5io.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  0:46                                         ` Mike Waychison
     [not found]                                           ` <49C195CF.1080506-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  1:06                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                               ` <m1ab7icodl.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  1:51                                                 ` Mike Waychison
     [not found]                                                   ` <49C1A52D.4000503-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  3:28                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                       ` <m1iqm6xkc7.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 17:26                                                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                                           ` <20090320172616.GA7203-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 19:51                                                             ` Mike Waychison
     [not found]                                                               ` <49C3F3C0.30100-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 20:40                                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-20 20:53                                                                 ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-20 23:26                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                               ` <m1d4cb3he5.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21  2:38                                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20090321023834.GA21064-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21  3:39                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                       ` <m1prgbzgqq.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21 14:51                                                                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 22:48         ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]           ` <49B99144.9000106-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 22:58             ` Dan Smith
     [not found]               ` <877i2upcvo.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 23:11                 ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                   ` <49B996BC.1090908-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 23:13                     ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                       ` <873adipc5l.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 23:24                         ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                           ` <49B999A6.2000005-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 15:30                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                               ` <20090313153004.GA8317-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 15:51                                 ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                   ` <49BA811C.4070302-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 17:15                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                       ` <20090313171556.GB10685-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 17:53                                         ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <49BA9D9C.2030208-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-25 12:01                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-13 15:59                         ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                           ` <49BA82CE.4090206-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 16:04                             ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-03-18  8:32             ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-18  8:35   ` Oren Laadan

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