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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Victor Lowther <victor.lowther-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: initramfs <initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on mounting the rootfs from a udev rule
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:31:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C3546C.8050505@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237496785.5070.28.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>

Victor Lowther wrote:
> It seems that there are two major use cases that make mounting the root
> file system directly from a udev rule an inadvisable design decision:
> 
> The first is when your root filesystem does not reside on a block
> device, as in the nfsroot case.  In this case, there is no backing
> device for the filesystem for udev to detect, so we would still need a
> non-udev method of mounting the root filesystem in order to handle any
> case where there is no backing device for the root filesystem.
> 
Hmm. There is no strict _need_ for a backing device for udev to work
properly, we just need an event here.
So for the nfsroot case it would be totally sufficient to have an event
like 'network is up'. This could then trigger a nfsmount

> The second is when we are asked to resume from hibernate.  In this case,
> we must not attempt to mount the root filesystem (or any other
> filesystem, for that matter) until we have either attempted to resume
> (and failed) or we have determined that resuming is impossible.  Udev
> does not make any guarantees about the order in which devices are
> discovered, which leads to all sorts of interesting potential failure
> modes when you have either or both of resume handling and rootfs
> handling in a udev rule.
> 
Ah, that's ok. In these cases you'll have a 'resume=' argument in
the kernel commandline, so you just need to write a rule using an
event serializer/capture like 'collect':
- Use three arguments to collect, root device, resume device, and
  another one signifying 'resume_done'.
- Add another rule which triggers resume on the resume device, sets
  'resume_done' if resume returns, and triggers the collect rule again.
- Then collect will return 1 and start the mount process.

No problem there. However, you're still facing the problem that you'd
might want to run 'fsck' on the root device. And you might want to
know when 'mount' has actually finished, as only then you can execute
'init'. Sadly the 'mount' events are gone from the kernel, otherwise
it would've been quite handy here.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-20  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-19 21:06 Thoughts on mounting the rootfs from a udev rule Victor Lowther
     [not found] ` <1237496785.5070.28.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  8:07   ` Harald Hoyer
2009-03-20  8:31   ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
     [not found]     ` <49C3546C.8050505-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  9:14       ` Victor Lowther
     [not found]         ` <1237540487.5070.54.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  9:24           ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]             ` <49C360B3.9020107-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  9:51               ` Victor Lowther
2009-03-20 12:30               ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                 ` <20090320123018.GB3363-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:07                   ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                     ` <49C39509.2020205-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:13                       ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]                         ` <ac3eb2510903200613k6826172cl4766b48edea92228-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:22                           ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                             ` <49C3987F.8010804-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:40                               ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]                                 ` <ac3eb2510903200640w1cfab1d4sbadc3db7b2f11e06-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:47                                   ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                                     ` <49C39E8C.50908-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:54                                       ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]                                         ` <ac3eb2510903200654x9fda56cm504007cb516a7fc4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 13:56                                           ` Seewer Philippe
2009-03-20  9:18       ` Seewer Philippe
2009-03-20  9:15   ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]     ` <49C35EC6.2050405-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  9:29       ` Victor Lowther
     [not found]         ` <1237541365.5070.64.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-22 19:46           ` Adam Spragg

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