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From: Nathaniel Rutman <Nathan.Rutman@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] Start the MGS first?
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:13:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D38485.3090801@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238011240.6090.16.camel@pc.interlinx.bc.ca>

Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:48 -0700, Nathaniel Rutman wrote:
>   
>> As of Lustre 1.6, servers can be started in any order (after the initial registration at first startup).  Internally, this required significant bending of our connection rules, and with a move toward ZFS becomes even more burdensome.  
>> So my question to the Lustre community is this: would anyone strenuously object to a startup ordering requirement that the MGS must be started before any other servers?  
>> This would probably be in the Lustre 3.0 timeframe.  It is also likely that we will have to divorce the MGS and MDT onto separate devices -- no more "combo" MDT/MGSes. 
>>     
>
> I'll ask before anyone else does... would this require the MGS be
> available at any time a server (or client?) needs to start rather than
> the optional behaviour (for anything but first time server starts) that
> we currently enjoy?  IOW, does this make the MGS a much more critical
> component of the filesystem than it is currently?
>   
yes.    It's already required for client starts.  What we would do is 
have the MDT / OST server mounts block until the MGS is up, probably 
with a timeout.
And yes, this will be some amount less flexible than the current startup 
order, but we gain advantages from it - simplified import states, more 
centralized configuration, single-path disk access.  The question is how 
burdensome really will this limitation be.  So far I have not heard very 
much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-01 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-25 19:48 [Lustre-devel] Start the MGS first? Nathaniel Rutman
2009-03-25 20:00 ` Brian J. Murrell
2009-04-01 15:13   ` Nathaniel Rutman [this message]
2009-03-25 20:15 ` Nicholas Henke
2009-03-26 21:35 ` [Lustre-devel] [Lustre-discuss] " Kevin Fox
2009-04-01 15:16   ` Nathaniel Rutman

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