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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, systemtap-ml <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 0/6 V4] tracing: kprobe-based event tracer
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:21:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D61B56.9020408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D5F80B.7000305@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> ok, the structure and concept looks quite good now, really nice!
>>
>> I'm wondering about something i suggested many moons ago: to look into
>> the KVM decoder+emulator (arch/x86/kvm/x86_emulate.c).
>>
>> I remember there were some issues with that (one problem being that
>> the KVM decoder is a special-purpose thing covering specific range of
>> execution environments - not a near-full integer-ops decoder like the
>> one we are aiming for here) - are there any other fundamental problems
>> beyond 'it has to be done' ?
>>
>> Conceptually we want just a single piece of decoder logic in
>> arch/x86/. If the KVM folks are cool with it we could factor out the
>> KVM one into arch/x86/lib/. But ... if there are compelling reasons to
>> leave the KVM one alone in its limited environment we can do that too.
>>   
> 
> kvm has three requirements not needed by kprobes:
> - it wants to execute instructions, not just decode them, including
> generating faults where appropriate
> - it is performance critical
> - it needs to support 16-bit, 32-bit, and 64-bit instructions
> simultaneously

Hmm, I'd like to know actually kvm aims to emulate all kinds of
instructions. If so, I might find some bugs in x86_emulate.c.
However, I don't know all bugs. To find all of them, we have to
port x86_emulate.c to user-space, decode binaries with it, and
compare its output with another decoder, as Jim had done with insn.c.

https://www.redhat.com/archives/utrace-devel/2009-March/msg00031.html


Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu

Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc.
Software Solutions Division

e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-03 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-02 17:24 [PATCH -tip 0/6 V4] tracing: kprobe-based event tracer Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-02 17:24 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-03 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 11:32   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 11:50   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 12:17       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 12:33           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:16           ` Vegard Nossum
2009-04-03 13:40             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:52             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-05 19:37               ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-04-06  7:53                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:25       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 14:21     ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2009-04-03 14:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 16:55         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-03 17:59           ` Jim Keniston
2009-04-03 14:30       ` Avi Kivity

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