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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, "MASON, CHRISTOPHER" <CHRIS.MASON@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] Barriers still not passing on simple dm devices...
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:24:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D959BD.7060002@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75b66ecd0904051814n353bb69bp76a38e36cac4d3fe@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/05/2009 06:14 PM, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> One thing to point out here is that there are a lot of "servers" in high end
>> data centers that do not have UPS backup. Those racks full of 1U and 2U
>> boxes that are used to make "grids", "clouds" and so on often are built with
>> as much gear as you can stuff in a rack - no batteries or UPS to be seen, so
>> they are really quite similar to the normal desktop or home systems that we
>> normally run at home :-)
>
> These days even bargain basement data centers provide UPS functionality for
> you, via generator backup and A/B power.
>
> Lee

In my experience, you will see multiple customers with and without UPS backup.

I have certainly dealt personally with many data centers that lost power without 
them & see array vendors that continue to build in their own batteries...

ric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-06  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-23 19:04 Barriers still not passing on simple dm devices Eric Sandeen
2009-03-23 19:10 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-23 19:10   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-24 14:02 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 14:02   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 14:05   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-24 14:05     ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-03-24 14:26     ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 14:26       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 14:30       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-24 14:30         ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-03-24 14:45         ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 14:45           ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-24 15:05           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-24 15:05             ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 15:15             ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-25 15:15               ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-25 15:27               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 22:39                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-25 22:39                   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-26  8:42                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26  8:42                     ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-03-31  3:39                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-31  3:39                       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-03-31 10:49                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 10:49                         ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-04-02 23:40                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-02 23:40                           ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-03  8:11                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-03  8:11                             ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-04-04 15:20                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-04-05  1:28                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-05  1:28                                 ` [dm-devel] " Theodore Tso
2009-04-05 11:54                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-04-05 11:54                                 ` [dm-devel] " Ric Wheeler
2009-04-06  1:14                                   ` Lee Revell
2009-04-06  1:14                                     ` [dm-devel] " Lee Revell
2009-04-06  1:24                                     ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2009-04-08 12:44                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 12:44                                       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 15:16                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-04-09  4:22                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-09  4:22                                       ` [dm-devel] " Eric Sandeen
2009-04-08 12:36                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 12:36                                   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 12:54                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 12:54                                 ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-09 10:48                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-04-09 10:48                                   ` [dm-devel] " Ric Wheeler
2009-04-08 13:37                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 13:37                               ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2009-04-08 14:06                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08 14:06                                 ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-04-08 23:44                               ` Dave Chinner
2009-04-08 23:44                                 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2009-04-09  1:27                               ` Chris Mason
2009-04-09 10:28                                 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2009-04-09 10:28                                   ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2009-03-26 12:55                   ` Chris Mason
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     [not found] ` <cjfuL-6vJ-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <cjfEl-6J2-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <cjfNX-6Wh-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-03-26 13:05       ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]       ` <cjfXx-78D-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <cjg7h-7lM-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <cjgqC-80G-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <cjD3I-22U-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <cjDdE-2g3-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <cjJVv-4vp-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <cjXlS-uM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-03-26 15:26                     ` Bodo Eggert
2009-03-26 15:26                       ` Bodo Eggert

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