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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Peterson <cpeterso@cpeterso.com>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM question...
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:27:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49DB0E7D.2070300@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49DA4ECC.9050204@garzik.org>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> The real problem one is xen-netfront. Because 1) it is least random,
>> the attacker might be another VM 2) the VM is most in need of random
>> samples because it doesn't have real hardware.
>
> Agreed.
>
> I'm surprised Xen doesn't use virtio-rng.  I guess it needs a special 
> Xen paravirt driver for randomness. 

Yes, sampling randomness in a PV driver is pretty pointless.  We could 
do the guest end of an entropy sink entirely in usermode, but at present 
there's no dom0 support for an entropy source.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-07  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-06 18:30 IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM question Robin Getz
2009-04-06 18:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-06 18:44   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-06 18:49     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-07  8:27       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-04-06 19:22   ` Robin Getz
2009-04-06 19:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-04-06 19:01 ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-06 22:09   ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2009-04-06 23:35     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-07 21:58       ` Robin Getz
2009-04-07 22:25         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-07  0:16     ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-07  0:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-07 11:16   ` Robin Getz
2009-04-07 14:57     ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-07 21:39       ` Chris Peterson
2009-04-07 22:30         ` Robin Getz
2009-04-08 21:53           ` Gilles Espinasse
2009-04-08 23:16             ` Chris Friesen
2009-04-09  4:24               ` Robin Getz
2009-04-07 21:44       ` Robin Getz
2009-04-08 19:51         ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-09 13:54           ` Robin Getz
2009-04-09 17:00             ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-10  0:41               ` Robin Getz
2009-04-10  1:29               ` Chris Peterson
2009-04-10  2:27                 ` Matt Mackall

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