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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Linux USB kernel mailing list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: USB storage no-boot regression (bisected)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:48:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E54B12.8040303@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090414194414.22c63728@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:28 -0400
> Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
> 
>> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> This change just made it go faster enough for you to be out of luck;
>>> fundamentally your userland needs to wait if the device it wants is
>>> not there. 
>> All these drivers are in-kernel, and the root device is passed via 
>> command line.  There is no userland at that point, that needs to wait.
> 
> ok fair; but that does not change that the kernel does not know if a
> device is coming.
> Yes that sucks; sadly USB is just this way, you don't know when no new
> devices will come from a certain bus.

Perhaps -- but I can say that kernels <= 2.6.27 booted with 100% 
reliability.

Now, Kernels >= 2.6.28 always fail.

The ONLY variable is the kernel.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-15  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-14 21:06 USB storage no-boot regression (bisected) Jeff Garzik
2009-04-15  1:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15  2:30   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-15  2:44     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15  2:48       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-04-15  3:09         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15  8:40     ` Alan Cox
2009-04-15  1:49 ` Greg KH
2009-04-15  2:35   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-15  2:46     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15  5:09     ` Greg KH
2009-04-15 13:46       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-15 14:25       ` Mark Lord
2009-04-15 14:30         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15 15:37           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-15 19:58             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15 21:55               ` Mark Lord
2009-04-16  1:32                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-16  2:14                   ` Mark Lord
2009-04-16  2:54                     ` Greg KH
2009-04-16 10:51                       ` Alan Cox
2009-04-16 13:34                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-16 13:49                           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-16  2:17                   ` Hal Murray
2009-04-16  3:42                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-15 15:01         ` Alan Cox
2009-04-15 15:47           ` Alan Stern
2009-04-15 15:49             ` Mark Lord
2009-04-15 17:06               ` VomLehn
2009-04-15 17:32                 ` Alan Cox
2009-04-15 20:06                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-15 20:20                     ` VomLehn

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