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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jeremy Sanders <jss@ast.cam.ac.uk>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fsck.ext4: Group descriptors look bad... trying backup	blocks...
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:49:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EC8B97.6010308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090420124810.GT19186@mit.edu>

Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:43:37PM +0100, Jeremy Sanders wrote:
>> It takes a day or two to do the sync. I've only done it twice (one with  
>> the old kernel, once with the new fedora testing kernel) and it happened  
>> both times. I'm afraid the statistics are rather low number here.
>>
>> I did a different faster test (just copying my home directory lots of  
>> times), but I wasn't able to get it to fail. That test didn't use much  
>> disk space, however. Maybe it's worth just dd'ing a few TB of data onto  
>> the device and seeing whether that fails.
>>
>> I didn't reboot this time - I did last time. I just unmounted the file  
>> system and fsckd it. The filesystem is 8.2TB and the data is around 
>> 2.5TB.

I think trying a filesystem with just under 8T would be a useful test too.

> That's that's useful data.  I wish we could make it fail more quickly
> on a smaller rsync, but the fact that you didn't need to reboot is
> definitely useful information.
> 
> And this is a fresh rsync so no files were being deleted, rsync should
> have just been writing new files to .filename.XXXXX and then renaming
> the filename to filename.XXXXX when it is done, right? 
> 
> OK, let me think about this a little.  I think we can create a patch
> which checks for writes to the block group descriptors and dumps a
> stack trace.  That would allow us catch the failing code in question
> in the act, and maybe figure out what is going on.

XFS has block-zero tests, because there was once a bug where
uninitialized block numbers in buffers were clobbering the superblock at
block 0.  It was helpful, so I think this is a good idea, Ted.

-Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-17 11:03 fsck.ext4: Group descriptors look bad... trying backup blocks Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-17 11:26 ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-17 11:56 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-17 12:16   ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-17 17:10     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-17 18:51       ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-17 12:24   ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-17 16:36     ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-17 17:00 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-20  9:33   ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 11:35     ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-20 11:43       ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 12:48         ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-20 12:54           ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 14:49           ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-04-20 15:51             ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-20 15:53               ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 16:26                 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-20 16:40                   ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 18:28                 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-20 18:55                   ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-20 20:45                     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-22  9:34                       ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-22  9:07             ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-22  9:59               ` Thierry Vignaud
2009-04-24  8:27       ` Jeremy Sanders
2009-04-21 15:14     ` Thierry Vignaud
2009-04-21 15:52       ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]         ` <m23ac255pp.fsf@vador.mandriva.com>
2009-04-21 16:40           ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-21 16:56             ` Thierry Vignaud
2009-04-21 16:43       ` Theodore Tso

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