From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [216.168.135.169] (helo=starfish.geekisp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LxSH8-000430-H1 for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:45:34 +0200 Received: (qmail 2287 invoked by uid 1003); 24 Apr 2009 20:40:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (philip@opensdr.com@127.0.0.1) by mail.geekisp.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2009 20:40:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49F223CA.8020202@balister.org> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:40:42 -0400 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <49F1FCFB.9000205@balister.org> <20090424193245.GD15489@smtp.west.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20090424193245.GD15489@smtp.west.cox.net> Subject: Re: reverting some csets that kill package upgrade paths X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:45:35 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 9772 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050000000603070309090200" --------------ms050000000603070309090200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Rini wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:03:18PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > >> Upgrade paths are the foundation of package management, breaking them is >> stabbing people using your binaries in the eye. Do you want to tell the >> companies evaluating OE using .dev that they can't use the feature >> anymore that drew them to OE, namely package management? > > Red Herring. No commerical device is going to point to some random feed > and just hope things work out fine. No, they're going to point at their > supported feeds with updates they've tested and fixed any bugs that they > happened to have found (and pushed back because they're Good Guys). I disagree. Angstrom is usable and depends on stable having sane upgrade paths as a community supported distro. The issue here is under what circumstances is breaking upgrade paths in dev acceptable. Certainly, we do not want to make more work than needed for people basing distributions from OE, whether they are commercial or community based. 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