From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Stroetmann OntoLab Subject: Re: reiser4 inclusion? Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:33:04 +0200 Message-ID: <49F25A40.3070206@ontolab.com> References: <542E227E-E31D-496C-93FB-19393133297F@MailNewsRSS.com> <49F2523A.70604@ontolab.com> <200904250225.26206.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <200904250225.26206.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Sender: reiserfs-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Volker Armin Hemmann , reiserfs-devel Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > On Samstag 25 April 2009, Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote: > >> Hello Jason, >> >> >>> Edward, >>> >>> >>>> Please, >>>> don't flood in this mailing list. >>>> Go away! >>>> >>> You are totally out of line here. >>> >>> First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post >>> >>> Second, Christian, like all others, have a right to post here. You may >>> not agree with his posts (or what he is doing with OntoFS), but that >>> does not give you the right to tell him to go away. >>> >>> Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it >>> has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically >>> somewhat dead. >>> >>> If there was more co-operation and less fighting, perhaps forking >>> would not need to be an issue, but with your head up your ass no >>> progress gets made, no leaps forward, nada, zip, zilch. >>> >>> -Jason >>> >>> >>>> Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Christian; >>>>> >>>>> You wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With still no project page in sight, >>>>>> >>>>> Under the label of my company and taking the full risk of losing >>>>> reputation, in contrast to other well known Linux distributions and >>>>> former supporters of R....4 fs which (partly) jumped off the train, I >>>>> made the following offers in the past: >>>>> 1. Support the R4 fs under the name R4. >>>>> 2. Set up a project page or, on the wish of the developement >>>>> community, a wiki. >>>>> 3. Under an other name, which I've choosen and I'm not allowed to name >>>>> in this mailinglist, I've have even developed another kind of file >>>>> system. >>>>> >>>>> The results were: >>>>> To 1.: No echo. >>>>> To 2.: No replay. >>>>> To 3.: I got a kindly "Go away" advice. >>>>> And to give it the rest: I do have alternatives and if some persons >>>>> think, that they can gain something by their destructive attitude, >>>>> than I have to say: Okay, have a nice day. >>>>> >>>>> Being constructive, I think we need a new projcet management, maybe a >>>>> new maintainer, or some bytes for archiving the digital waste. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I find it hard to track[0] the progress of the work being towards an >>>>>> inclusion of reiser4 into mainline. Unable to help out with real >>>>>> code, I look at the reiser4-for-2.6.29 diffstat (sans the fs/reiser4 >>>>>> parts!) and see: >>>>>> >>>>>> Documentation/Changes | 12 >>>>>> Documentation/filesystems/reiser4.txt | 75 >>>>>> fs/Kconfig | 1 >>>>>> fs/Makefile | 1 >>>>>> fs/buffer.c | 9 >>>>>> fs/fs-writeback.c | 5 >>>>>> include/linux/fs.h | 3 >>>>>> include/linux/mm.h | 2 >>>>>> mm/filemap.c | 4 >>>>>> mm/page-writeback.c | 48 >>>>>> So, with 4 of them being "just" documentation and build magic, I take >>>>>> it that we're 6 files and less than 100 lines of code away from at >>>>>> least putting this file system into the new staging/ tree perhaps? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>> I found it more and more jokeless, what is going on around this fs. >>>>> Btw.: I can't and I won't follow the claims and resitances made by Al >>>>> Viro and other hard core coders against R4 and HFS+, especially the >>>>> arguments in the hardlink subject. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Christian. >>>>>> >>>>>> [0] http://tinyurl.com/dexfq9 >>>>>> >>>>> Sincerely >>>>> Christian *<:o) >>>>> >> I would really like to know, what was and is going on behind the scenes. >> If Mr. Shishkin wants some kind of monetary support for his work, then I >> have to say: "Sorry, but not this way" and "The time is over since two >> years". That means no money! You got me? Good. >> >> > > no, you want to make money without paying him, right? > Who asked this? I can't see a signature! Sincerely Christian *<:o)