From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Stroetmann OntoLab Subject: Re: reiser4 inclusion? Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:42:03 +0200 Message-ID: <49F25C5A.2060407@ontolab.com> References: <2E9381E6-A09A-4330-9A61-C4B7D7CE0E71@MailNewsRSS.com> <49F2560F.1000002@ontolab.com> <200904250228.37848.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <200904250228.37848.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Sender: reiserfs-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Volker Armin Hemmann , reiserfs-devel Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > On Samstag 25 April 2009, Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote: > >> Jason, >> >> >>> Volker, >>> >>> >>>>> First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post >>>>> >>>> it is pretty much his mailing list. >>>> >>> Just because he is the "maintainer". >>> >>> Am I wrong, but the community owns the code, not Edward. >>> >> I have had the same impression in the past, but now I have learned >> something new. >> >> > > people who write the code own the code. How many reiserfs or reiser4 related > patches from you two got into the kernel in the last... lets say 4 years? > You don't hit the real problem. The last time we were at this question in this mailing-list, I said it seems to be, that we're are running in circles since 2 or 3 years. As Jason and I said, the maintainer refused to communicate with persons trying to support the development of the filesystem. Is this fact really so heavy to understand? > >>> I mean, I could host a reiser list on my mail server. >>> >> I can do it too ;) >> > > if you want to - nobody is stopping you. > ?! > >>>>> Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it >>>>> has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically >>>>> somewhat dead. >>>>> >>>> reiserfs is in maintenance mode - there aren't much changes. In >>>> fact, less >>>> changes is a good thing. >>>> >>> maintenance mode = stagnant, no? >>> > > wrong. maintenance mode = stable. > ?! > > >>>> Edward is also pretty much the last person working on reiser4. You are >>>> attacking him, but I don't see patches from you. Gives someone >>>> something to >>>> think about. >>>> >>> Right because he has slammed heads with everyone that was willing to >>> help him. I was willing and when I tried talking with him he blew me >>> off. So I forked. OntoLab too. >>> >> Yes, that's exactly the point. >> > > and then you stayed in your little corner. Nobody knows about your forks. > Nobody can use your forks. ??? > Or are you sending your patches to Andrew Morton > for -mm inclusion? > We are not at this point (see above). > >>>> look at the archives. Edward has good reasons to feel ripped of. >>>> Maybe it is all a big miscommunication. But that isn't solved when >>>> ontolabs >>>> guys agressively advertise for themselves. >>>> >>> But what else is there when a snails pace is being achieved otherwise? >>> > > 'diplomacy' look into it, a very interesting topic. > ??? > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe reiserfs-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html With best regards C. Stroetmann