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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 9/9] Introduce VLANClientState::cleanup()
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:45:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F9AB7C.7020803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200904291137.57852.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:
>>> I'm still not understanding. Ethernet devices are fundamentally based
>>> around a bus architecture. "flip the TX/RX queues" only makes sense if
>>> you're talking about a point-point connection. For ethernet devices I see
>>> no reason to distinguish between "host" devices (slirp, vde, tap) and
>>> "guest" devices. They may be created for different reasons, but they're
>>> all doing fundamentally the same thing.
>>>       
>> In the bus model, there's an implicit copy-to-the-wire operation that
>> results in replication of the packet to everything else on the bus.
>>  From a performance perspective, this is not at all ideal.
>>     
>
> I'm not convinced by this argument. I don't see why a one-many api requires a 
> copy.
>   

To achieve copyless receive (from guest perspective), you need to give 
the receive buffer to the transmitting device (tap).  If there are more 
than one transmitting devices, you have a conflict.

Sure, you can short-ciruit the case where you have a pair of devices, 
but then you need to revoke posted receive descriptors.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-30 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-15 16:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Misc networking fixes Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Remove stray GSO code from virtio_net Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] struct iovec is now universally available Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] Fix error handling in net_client_init() Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] Don't fail PCI hotplug if no NIC model is supplied Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] Remove some useless malloc() checking Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] Remove NICInfo from e1000 and mipsnet state Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] Add unregister_savevm() Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] Use NICInfo::model for eepro100 savevm ID string Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 16:29                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] Introduce VLANClientState::cleanup() Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 17:34                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-04-16  1:07                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-04-16  3:24                       ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-16 14:49                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-16 14:52                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/09 v2] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-16 14:53                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/09] Free VLANClientState using qemu_free() Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-16 20:44                         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 9/9] Introduce VLANClientState::cleanup() Marcelo Tosatti
2009-04-28 12:08                         ` Paul Brook
2009-04-28 16:46                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 17:17                             ` Paul Brook
2009-04-28 17:25                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 17:46                                 ` Paul Brook
2009-04-28 17:49                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 18:28                                     ` Paul Brook
2009-04-28 21:38                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-29 10:37                                         ` Paul Brook
2009-04-30 13:45                                           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-04-30 16:02                                             ` Paul Brook
2009-04-30 16:20                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 16:31                                                 ` Paul Brook
2009-04-30 16:32                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 16:37                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 16:41                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 16:58                                                         ` Paul Brook
2009-04-30 17:51                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 16:33                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 16:32                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 16:57                                                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-30 17:11                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 17:45                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 17:48                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 18:17                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 18:19                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 18:22                                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 17:59                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 18:10                                                         ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-30 18:20                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 18:32                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-30 18:57                                                             ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-30 18:16                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29  7:36                             ` Markus Armbruster
2009-04-16 14:49                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 17:13           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 5/9] Remove some useless malloc() checking Jan Kiszka
2009-04-15 16:55     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] struct iovec is now universally available Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-15 17:25       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-04-15 17:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-15 21:18         ` François Revol
2009-04-15 21:52           ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-15 17:44       ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-17 18:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Remove stray GSO code from virtio_net Anthony Liguori

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